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post #3196 of 3963

Hmm that is strange.. I'm going off what Robert describes the 5TX to be.. 

 

I don't know if the 5TX is completely different than the 4T, but I've heard first hand that the 4T was the 'warm' version. Hard to imagine thats not the case now..


Edited by flinkenick - 3/13/15 at 12:42pm
post #3197 of 3963

the difference about opamps not that significant ... what is the most important is the implementation of the opamp and the circuit around it ... that what gives 99% of the sound characteristics ... so it is not strange that it can give a warm sound with 5TX and neutral sound with Fiio X3  .... i modded my X3 with AD8066 that gives SLIGHTLY more aggressive and less soft sound and that is all ... about 5% change but i needed those ;)

post #3198 of 3963

Who else here has a 5P? Man that adds some serious bass.. The 2nd bass setting is too much for a lot of genres, but it can sound amazing with some..

post #3199 of 3963
Got the 5P for a while. With my Shure SE846, it soubds truely SUPERB!
I like full or almost full bass effect with mid treble settings. Listning to streaming RDIO, mostly to metal, hard rock and fussion jazz.

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Edited by zolom - 3/17/15 at 2:48am
post #3200 of 3963

Ah me the same! At first i thought the 2nd bass setting was too much even for bassy genres because it shifts the balance too much between high/lows, but when you add the first treble setting it compensates and you get this incredible full sound - insane. Of course we've drifted from the balanced 'audiophile' sound, but it sounds so good!!

 

I'm rediscovering hip hop and EDM now.. Especially hip hop sounds so badass. But I can see that for rock too, same kind of energy ;) 

 

I have the 5P now, but Robert's going to add the extra bass to the 5TX I'm waiting on :)


Edited by flinkenick - 3/17/15 at 2:51am
post #3201 of 3963
As far as I had read , the 5TX bass settings, are going to be the same as the 5N, 5T, which are 0, +3, +6 db. Not large as those of the 5P. Is the 5TX gonna have higher bass values?
Edited by zolom - 3/17/15 at 2:04pm
post #3202 of 3963

Yes originally the bass settings were gonna be the same as the N and T (I think it was +6 / +9), but Robert said it's not a problem to add the +18 setting to the 5TX

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If that's the case, I might upgrade from 5P to a bassy 5TX

post #3204 of 3963

If you prefer a warm sound then yeah definitely ;) But it's gonna take a while before the 5TX is finished I think. Release is set for begin April, but could be extended again

post #3205 of 3963
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Originally Posted by zolom View Post
 

Got the 5P yesterday. Had a short while to try it with the LG G3 (android 5). The USB audio connection operates OK with the LG native drivers (no need for USB Audio Player, or such). It pairs beautifully with the Shure SE846.
Sound quality is excellent as well as the soundstage. I will try to compare the 5P amp against the RSA Shadow amplifier.
Bass boost is great, though, some may find maximum settings too overwhelming. I love bass, so for most of my music (Metal, Hard Rock) its just fine.

Thanks Robert for a great device


Shure, a great device but I didn't get what you meant exactly by "no need for USB Audio Player". I've been using the G4 for 2-3 years and the only use for the USB port on it is for recharging the battery, be it from a USB connection to a USB Audio Player or a computer. You can also get a USB adapter with a USB port on the back side and two prongs that connect to any ordinary electrical outlet so you can recharge it off the wall. So how has this changed?

post #3206 of 3963
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can someone compare the 5N with the 4G - is it a definite improvement ?

 

also, is there an option to trade your 4G amp for a 5N ?


I bought the 4g 2-3 years ago so Robert contacted me by email on Jan. 9 2015 to see if I wanted to upgrade the 4g to the 5TX for $249. That's why I'm back on this thread but I'm almost positive I'll go for it. If you're interested in that exchange, I don't see why he wouldn't go for it. Please don't mention me or the price he offered to me.

 

LUCK

post #3207 of 3963
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Shure, a great device but I didn't get what you meant exactly by "no need for USB Audio Player". I've been using the G4 for 2-3 years and the only use for the USB port on it is for recharging the battery, be it from a USB connection to a USB Audio Player or a computer. You can also get a USB adapter with a USB port on the back side and two prongs that connect to any ordinary electrical outlet so you can recharge it off the wall. So how has this changed?

 



I referred to the DAC of the 5P.
post #3208 of 3963
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Shure, a great device but I didn't get what you meant exactly by "no need for USB Audio Player". I've been using the G4 for 2-3 years and the only use for the USB port on it is for recharging the battery, be it from a USB connection to a USB Audio Player or a computer. You can also get a USB adapter with a USB port on the back side and two prongs that connect to any ordinary electrical outlet so you can recharge it off the wall. So how has this changed?



I referred to the DAC of the 5P


I'm not familiar with that technology. I take it, it's some kind of port that connects to what and what for? It wasn't a part of the 4g model and it wasn't mentioned (as I recall) in the 4g User Guide. That fact and also, from reading recent posts on this thread, makes me wonder if Robert has two lines of headphone amps. I know there was a 2g followed by a 3g and then a 4g (which I have and which Robert has offered to give me a 5TX in exchange for $249 plus the old 4g).

 

Would you mind explaining DAC technology, the 4g vs the 5TX and whether he sells two different lines of amps or simply updates (if so, what is the update model # sequence?)

post #3209 of 3963
I assume that all Headstage Arrow 5 are AMP+DAC, Previous models were AMPs.
Edited by zolom - 3/23/15 at 10:47am
post #3210 of 3963
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I assume that all Headstage Arrow 5 are AMP+DAC, Previous models were AMPs.

So the 5TX has got to be an improvement since it is both. Whether the improvement is worth the price is the question, isn't it? And isn't it over 500 USD or Euros?

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