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post #2716 of 3080
Now there's an arrow 4n lol
post #2717 of 3080
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Originally Posted by mpawluk91 View Post

Now there's an arrow 4n lol
The 4N is actually a 4G with an 8397 op amp installed.
For those that are interested Headphonia is offering refurbished 3Gs with the 8397 op amp for $149.
Edited by Vidmaven - 7/30/13 at 5:03pm
post #2718 of 3080

3Gs does not have Treble Switch, otherwise I would have jumped on this offer

post #2719 of 3080
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Originally Posted by musicinmymind View Post

3Gs does not have 
Treble Switch, otherwise I would have jumped on this offer
From Headphonia's 3G page:The 3G has an impedance switch (instead of a treble switch), a much tighter bass boost and a slightly higher gain setting.
Edited by Vidmaven - 7/30/13 at 5:02pm
post #2720 of 3080
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Originally Posted by Vidmaven View Post


The 4N is actually a 4G with an 8397 op amp installed.
For those that are interested Headphonia is offering refurbished 3Gs with the 8397 op amp for $149.

 

If you are a Shure SE530/535 user .. you do not want to pass this up. The bass boost circuit of the 3G is far superior to any other version with the SE535's ... 

 

I had no idea this was the case and will be buying one straight away. Deal of the century for SE535 users. The 4G variants sound good too but the tighter/punchier bass frequency of the 3G is far better to my ear than the 4G's more subtle approach. I've tried both amps extensively...

 

Thanks for that information, BTW ... is it listed on the site or should we email Robert directly?

post #2721 of 3080
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Originally Posted by s1rrah View Post

If you are a Shure SE530/535 user .. you do not want to pass this up. The bass boost circuit of the 3G is far superior to any other version with the SE535's ... 

I had no idea this was the case and will be buying one straight away. Deal of the century for SE535 users. The 4G variants sound good too but the tighter/punchier bass frequency of the 3G is far better to my ear than the 4G's more subtle approach. I've tried both amps extensively...

Thanks for that information, BTW ... is it listed on the site or should we email Robert directly?
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Edited by Vidmaven - 8/24/13 at 1:41pm
post #2722 of 3080

 

Fantastic...

 

I had spoken with Robert about six months ago re: ordering a 3G from him and he said at the time that he was waiting for delivery of some new cases for the 3G refurbs ... guess he got all that suss'd.

 

Can't wait to get my hands on another 3G ... and the 2 year warranty is awesome as well.

 

Thanks again ...

post #2723 of 3080
I have a arrow 4g and I love it but I was wondering which arrow amp has the best soundstage?
post #2724 of 3080

what's the difference between the bass in the 3G and the 4N ?

 

even though i have a 4N and i am completely satisfied ,  i am thinking of buying a 3G as backup

 

for that kind of money, looks like it's worth it

 

little luxuries for the audio freaks.

post #2725 of 3080

How did you get a 4N so fast? Or did you mean 4T?

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Originally Posted by proedros View Post

what's the difference between the bass in the 3G and the 4N ?

 

even though i have a 4N and i am completely satisfied ,  i am thinking of buying a 3G as backup

 

for that kind of money, looks like it's worth it

 

little luxuries for the audio freaks.

post #2726 of 3080
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Originally Posted by proedros View Post

what's the difference between the bass in the 3G and the 4N ?

 

even though i have a 4N and i am completely satisfied ,  i am thinking of buying a 3G as backup

 

for that kind of money, looks like it's worth it

 

little luxuries for the audio freaks.

 

The 3G's bass emphasis is a much "punchier" bass boost ... emphasizing kick drums and the snappier punch in songs ... whereas the 4N's would be considered a smoother, less noticeable but possibly "deeper" sub bass emphasis ..

 

For very flat IEM's like the SE535's or the Ety's ER-4P's ... the 3G's bass boost is super fun and effective ... I don't know about other IEM's really as I've always preferred very neutral sound signatures...

 

But your right ... for that kind of money, it's ridiculous not to buy one. That's a top performing portable (some would say one of the best ever) with a two year warranty for just over 150 bucks. Ridiculous ...

 

I'm buying for sure...

post #2727 of 3080
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Originally Posted by s1rrah View Post

The 3G's bass emphasis is a much "punchier" bass boost ... emphasizing kick drums and the snappier punch in songs ... whereas the 4N's would be considered a smoother, less noticeable but possibly "deeper" sub bass emphasis ..

For very flat IEM's like the SE535's or the Ety's ER-4P's ... the 3G's bass boost is super fun and effective ... I don't know about other IEM's really as I've always preferred very neutral sound signatures...

I've got 535s with a 4G and as much as I'm tempted by the 3G for the extra bass I don't think I could cope without treble boost at 1. I tried listening without it for an hour and the moment I switched it back on I realised how much I like it!

Think I'm just going to wait and hope a future upgrade steps up the bass a notch or two...
post #2728 of 3080

I have the Shure SE530, and what they need most is a treble boost.  Badly need it.  I would not consider any amp wtihout that feature.  Even with it, my Shure are way below my Phonak PFE 232 in detail and enjoyment.  But I can understand some like the ultra warm smooth midrange of the Shure. 

 

Also, the Arrow gain settings I use differ depending on the earphones.  There is an interaction between the two, such that the sound signature of gain 0, I, and II differ as you change headphones.  On my HD650, I want the extended and smooth setting of gain I (IIRC) but for the Phonak, I require fuller midrange, so I use the 0 gain.  

post #2729 of 3080
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Originally Posted by InsideTM View Post


I've got 535s with a 4G and as much as I'm tempted by the 3G for the extra bass I don't think I could cope without treble boost at 1. I tried listening without it for an hour and the moment I switched it back on I realised how much I like it!

Think I'm just going to wait and hope a future upgrade steps up the bass a notch or two...

 

Well there you have it then ...

 

Happy listening!

 

.joel

post #2730 of 3080

Seems like there are two variation, the 4T(tubey sound based on AD8620) and 4N(netural based on  AD8397 ). 


Edited by audionewbi - 8/16/13 at 6:38pm
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