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post #91 of 100
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I didn't say anything before because I only had it for 3 days or so. I knew the AMP3 was bulls**t when I read the various nonsense claims in the advertisement texts and from some users, but who am I to judge something I haven't heard?

In the end, this product needed a fist-in-the-face review, in my opinion. That's why I wrote it. With politeness one doesn't get any further at dealing with a piece of crap like the AMP3. I have zero respect for con artists releasing something shabby like that, just to make a quick buck. It hurts the whole industry, the consumers, and general credibility of places like Head-Fi. I had my say, and I made quite a few enemies. That's ok. One even stalked me over to Anythingbutipod and posted something under my real name, via a proxy server, that's how low some people stoop.

Is a shabby, sub-par MP3 player worth all that drama? Is pride more important than improvement? A few times I tricked myself into buying crappy stuff too, that's what hype does to a person. It's nothing to be ashamed of, live and learn... and if HiSound might see this thread as something to actually start working on a decent player and not just undermining forums with shills and writing up bulls**t claims with made up words and facts, then the audio-world would be a bit of a better place already.
post #92 of 100
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post
Well, it would take a huge effort not to be more positive than DFKT.
Did I already mention today how incredibly stellar the Ortofon IEMs sound?
post #93 of 100
Glad i didnt spend my money on this, dfkt. Even the much praised Sony X1000 seem overhyped to me.
post #94 of 100
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There. Fixed that for you.
You should know if you have any shred of intelligence that everything said on a forum on the internet is opinion, you can not prove anything that is so variable and user specific.

dfkt posted his user end opinions on the amp3, those who trust his opinion when it comes to portable audio can make conclusion based on this if they like.
post #95 of 100
It's good to know not every product has a "buy it" endorsement. Also good to hear it from people who have a good baseline for comparison. Especially products and players that aren't readily available to most people to try themselves or reviewed by a forum/publication/etc... that says everything is great. It's "audiophile and expensive, must be good" Thanks for looking out.
post #96 of 100
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You should know if you have any shred of intelligence that everything said on a forum on the internet is opinion, you can not prove anything that is so variable and user specific.

dfkt posted his user end opinions on the amp3, those who trust his opinion when it comes to portable audio can make conclusion based on this if they like.
Opinion and truth are far different things. dfkt and his alcolytes have one opionion, and several other members have quite another. Not about whether a scam has been run on unsuspecting members, but whether or not the Amp3 can be a worthwhile piece of gear to own.

But if you read the threads, it's apparent that anyone who has a view on the Amp3 that differs from dfkt's is either a shill or doesn't know a thing about audio. Which is far from the truth, though it may be dfkt and his devotees' opinion.

Oh, and nice to see racism is alive and well on HF, re the earlier posts ridiculing the way Asian people speak (aka Engrish). Hilarious. Glad to see HF is a place where racists can feel comfortable. I am not Asian, but that type of BS really says a lot about the mentality hereabouts.
post #97 of 100
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I had a similar experience a while back when I tried to post objective comparisons in the lengthy amp3 thread. I even posted quite a bit of positive points about the player, which were genuine, but no matter. Same thing happened to me... any critical observations were always eagerly dismissed by the 'regular crew'.
So, which is it? You "agree 100 percent" with dfkt's review or you have positive things to say about the Amp3? I read over that thread, and it appears you first pretty much trashed the Amp3, then changed your mind when someone posted a comparison with the Sony X, and you rated the Amp3as a pretty good SQ-producing DAP.

Reading back over that thread, I would not say any critical observations were dismissed, but people are entitled to their opinion even if it differs from yours, right?

How come your comparisons were objective, but others were subjective? A_Tumiwa posted a very fine comparison between the Amp3 and Sony X, and you seemed to find his comparison valid (relative to SQ) in your subsequent posts. Now, you have a different view I guess. No problem, that's your prerogative.

Many members who found the Amp3s SQ to be excellent with the right phones posted criticisms of the Amp3, including tstarn06, Average_Joe, JupiterKnight and others on that thread. And they were not attacked.
post #98 of 100
As a lawyer I find it strange that you have so much time on your hands to not only continually troll this forum but to actually spend the time to search through numerous postings in your never-ending crusade to perpetuate this thread, ad nauseum, to prove a moot point. It is now well past the point of WGAS (who gives a ****). Personally, I could care less about the points made on either side of the fence regarding this item. I had the chance to use it, albeit briefly, and found there to be absolutely no chance of me buying the item based on my five senses. Others can make up there own mind. My problem has been with mislabeling items as "audiophile", etc. In fairness, many others use this term and similar in advertising their items and fall short of the definition as well. It comes down to buyer beware, as always.

What I did like about dfkt's post is the time and analysis he put into it. It didn't come across as bashing a product for the hell of it. I don't have an real issue with you except that, as I mentioned, you don't back up your counterpoint in any way and just come across as someone irked by name calling and overzealous in protecting something you claim to have no affiliation with. Just odd is all. Most have already dropped this now. Perhaps it's time to throw in the towel already?
post #99 of 100
Indeed - there certainly is controversy with this. I think that HiSound might consider selling their devices with a good UI - something which doesn't crash or lock up, something that allows them to take advantage of their hardware.

I still propose Rockbox or bust because that is what will happen - lighten your burden HiSound and release your stuff to the team. But first, you need to release a usable device which can be operated properly. Keep it to yourselves and Rockbox. Stay under the table, out of the spotlight. When Rockbox are done - or if you release before hand, make sure it is right - sell a cheap, but good-quality resistor cable which eliminates the hiss with sensitive earphones.

Sell them together so that iem people can have their fun and headphone people can have theirs.

Do this for the Rocoo, resurrect the AMP3 - it has a great box - lots of good can go on in it. So do it right and set all parameters right. Then release. Spend a year - if it takes more, take more.

Don't rush.

Dont' design the software yourselves without a better backup: rockbox.
post #100 of 100
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