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here are some pics of the pair I have that the seller made.

Man, these are very good. Somewhere between Beyer T5p and SM3. Detailed/refined, but with deep bass and good treble extension but not being overly harsh in the treble (maybe on 3 or 5 tracks out of the whole evening worth of listening, but those were fairly poorly mastered metal ones biggrin.gif ) or boomy in the bass. Good soundstage as well, but unlike T5p it isn't too diffused, doesn't sound artificial or forced. These are by no means your avg DJ HP pair, and are very good closed HP.

The most amazing thing is that these are actually comfortable, vs M10 being molested by a bear in the head.

edit: on second thought there seems to be a pronounced highs bump somewhere biggrin.gif ... and leads to listener fatigue after a few minutes on some gear. i need to stop adjusting the vol knob as if my HP have prominent mids biggrin.gif They're also quite a bit less of a tank than Monitor 10 (although that also means your neck won't snap)
Edited by svyr - 5/4/11 at 2:18am
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ps group photo biggrin.gif Audio-gd NFB-10WM (fubar), Transistoramp v3, Pioneer Monitor 10R, Beyerdynamic DT48e (2008), Stax SR-507
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Pity my Old Monitor 10 is in storage in Melb...
Edited by svyr - 5/4/11 at 2:54am
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mmm, I should get my pair tomorrow...

So what happened to the 'Impressions and comparisons: Pioneer Monitor 10; AKG K240 DF; Pioneer Monitor 10R; Philips N6330; Sony DR 6A; Sony MDR CD900 ST; Beyerdynamic DT48E.' plan?

Working on it. I finally got the track list complete and since I have a couple days off I can kick start the project again. Set up is clear too. I am a bit of detail freak so sometimes delays occur due to my obsessions.

 

So, do you understand why I consider the 10R as one of my best headphones I have? I thoroughly respect Pioneer for making such an accomplished headphone.
 

 

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Working on it. I finally got the track list complete and since I have a couple days off I can kick start the project again. Set up is clear too. I am a bit of detail freak so sometimes delays occur due to my obsessions.

 

So, do you understand why I consider the 10R as one of my best headphones I have? I thoroughly respect Pioneer for making such an accomplished headphone.
 

 


I'd take it over a lot of much higher priced HP I had any day. Same with the vintage model actually (just need a pads/HB remodel). Buying a vintage M10 is what made me get a 10R, since I was hoping Pioneer fixed the inhumane things about it. It's interesting people think the Monitor series is for DJing. It's is very very dissimilar to their DJ cans I heard. something1000 or other biggrin.gif

It's a pity these are so damn hard to get. I think my WTB thread was up for a month, until I got ONE offer.

PS from another thread:
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Interesting but I still believe - I indeed believe cables make a difference - the right recable can make a difference. A Mogami W2534 made such a profound impact on a stock HD428 that I want to try that on a stock DT48E-25.



Even so, couple the right amplifier to the DT48E-25 with stock cable and you could be closer to audio heaven.
The new 48e-25 above are recabled. I don't think it makes a difference for the sound smily_headphones1.gif . But the coiled cable on old beyers annoyed me and I think the one one the new beyers annoyed shamu biggrin.gif What year is your DT48e?
Edited by svyr - 5/4/11 at 3:45am
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ps isolation is a bit strange... it's almost like a large chunk of the spectrum is well blocked and a large part isn't
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ps isolation is a bit strange... it's almost like a large chunk of the spectrum is well blocked and a large part isn't

Spectrum as in 'daily sounds' with the 10R? Isolation is good but not as isolating as the K181 and K518. Prior to buying my 10R I read that for the DJ crowd the 10R sounded too dry and too analytical. That is correct and also depends on the set up. Unlike my K181 the 10R needs power and the set up makes a difference. 

 

As for the 10R; a K701 did not cut it, a HD600 did not cut it and even my DF does not cut it. The HD800 though...

 

Regarding my DT48E, I am willing to take the recable gamble. If there is no difference so be it.

 

Edit: year unknown unless Joelpearce, its former owner (DT48E-25) finds the receipt.

 


 

 


Edited by Deep Funk - 5/4/11 at 12:02pm
post #37 of 39
heh, so a few months after getting them.
They still sound very detailed, but the coloration (character of the highs and mids) is fairly obvious moving down from any HP. I mostly prefer these with a mids bump (0.7-2.5k)
Max unrested use time until head-ache re: headband/weight = 2.5h biggrin.gif
Still, considering all the rest of my closed headphones cause a 'vomiting in rage' reaction and are FS....
Edited by svyr - 6/16/11 at 7:56am
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heh, so a few months after getting them.
They still sound very detailed, but the coloration (character of the highs and mids) is fairly obvious moving down from any HP. I mostly prefer these with a mids bump (0.7-2.5k)
Max unrested use time until head-ache re: headband/weight = 2.5h biggrin.gif
Still, considering all the rest of my closed headphones cause a 'vomiting in rage' reaction and are FS....


Svyr, where did you got them with the box, in Sydney?

post #39 of 39
posted a wtb ad,like you did,and bumped for about a month until i got a single offer that luckily had a box and looks hardly used.
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