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post #31 of 37
2/26/10 at 2:13am
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Originally Posted by logwed View Post
Because some stereo mixes are absolutely horrible. For example, hard-panning is the most horrible thing to happen to audio when you're listening through headphones. I can definitely understand listening in mono when this is the case.
I understand but the majority of "horrible" stereo mixes were made when both mono and stereo were the norm and/or mono was king. Stereo was new at the time. How were they supposed to know how to mix for stereo when 1) they had never done it before and 2) the console didn't have modern pan pots? You also have to understand that until fairly recently, headphone listening was a very small niche. It still is a small niche but it was much smaller before.

Stereo mixing was always intended for speakers. It has never been intended for headphones. Even today, engineers will go over every aspect of a a stereo mix on speakers - be it studio, car, home, laptop or iPhone speakers. Headphones only come into play when they are examining recordings for noise or other distractions that are hard to pick up on speakers. Even mastering engineers never master on headphones because of the lack of certain key qualities speakers have that headphones don't.

Anyway, my point is that we listen to music on headphones that was intended to be listened to on speakers (unless it's binaural of course).
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post #32 of 37
2/26/10 at 2:16am
I've never had mono but I've heard it's not pleasant.
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post #33 of 37
2/26/10 at 2:42am
I listen to a lot of Queens of the Stone Age, and they hard pin many of their tracks. I have never felt that the sound was fatiguing, nor have I found the crossfeed circuit was making my music sound better. When playing PS3, however, I have found the stereo was quite exaggerated, and that crossfeed, when carefully adjusted, gives near surround soundstaging. I can hear the footsteps and find the direction they come from on COD:MW2.

Find what you like. Some people find it fatiguing, others, like me, don't.
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post #34 of 37
2/26/10 at 3:43am
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Originally Posted by LFF View Post
I'm surprised you feel (or hear) this way. I always close my eyes when I go to a concert hall and I feel it enhances the directional information. I feel I get lost in the music and can clearly place most of the instruments based on how I hear them. Binaural recording is based on the way we hear and that seems to pick up directional information perfectly. Last time I checked these dummy heads couldn't see either.
I'm not saying there is no directional information but for myself taking out the visual cues really changes my perception of a live event. This may be more true with certain genres and performances vs others.

I honestly havent heard any good binaural recordings that were not novelty tracks but I do agree the technique should replicate what our ears see.
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post #35 of 37
2/26/10 at 9:30am
Some of the responses on this thread remind me of a recent posting I made on a bicycle forum, when I innocently confessed that my road bike had a triple crank. People suddenly treated me like a weenie, even though I protested that a triple crank has its place. I suppose every hobby has that, but Mr Mono may just be on to something the rest of us have missed, or rather things are (as usual) much more complicated than we assume.
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post #36 of 37
2/27/10 at 1:11am
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Originally Posted by logwed View Post
Thanks, King of Audio, for telling people what they should do.
Oh, you mean like the mono guy telling us what we should do?
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post #37 of 37
2/27/10 at 1:27am
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
Oh, you mean like the mono guy telling us what we should do?
Happens... Different strokes for different folks.
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