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Must see video for audiophiles about audio myths

post #1 of 23
2/24/10 at 3:48am
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I don't know if this has been posted before, but IMO, everyone single audiophile on the planet must watch this video.

YouTube - Audio Myths Workshop

I know this probably belongs in the Audio Science forum, but since most people never go there, and I think this is a very important topic, I'm posting it here. The mods can move it if they don't want to see it here.
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post #2 of 23
2/24/10 at 4:11am
I've seen that before. The first part is great and interesting, then the second half is a commercial for that Ethan character. It's funny, as he sounds as a bit of a hypocrite as he talks about overpriced goods. His website is soo overpriced it's not even funny. I'm custom making my own 6 custom acoustic panels that would probably be better than what he is selling, all under the cost of just one of his overpriced panels.

But the first 10 minutes are so are worth watching, then I strongly recommend not listening to him about acoustics, since he is strongly biased.
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post #3 of 23
2/24/10 at 4:41am
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Originally Posted by artforme View Post
then the second half is a commercial for that Ethan character. It's funny, as he sounds as a bit of a hypocrite as he talks about overpriced goods. His website is soo overpriced it's not even funny. I'm custom making my own 6 custom acoustic panels that would probably be better than what he is selling, all under the cost of just one of his overpriced panels.

But the first 10 minutes are so are worth watching, then I strongly recommend not listening to him about acoustics, since he is strongly biased.
I really don't think of it that way. He does not talk about his products nor try to sell them, and he's being very neutral and fair about everything. Fact is, you can buy acoustic treatment from any company, not just his, and you can also DIY (which is what I did).

The entire video is very informative, not just the first 10 minutes. All the stuff about DA converters, null tests, bit rate...etc are all very relevant to members here who deal with digital audio files of any kind.
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post #4 of 23
2/24/10 at 4:51am
maybe i was a bit harsh, but he does have a reputation for going on about his company.

Thanks for posting, as it does have some great insight.
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post #5 of 23
2/24/10 at 4:51am
this video has been posted many times.....I also find it very pseudo, made for audiofools, any academic would laugh...
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post #6 of 23
2/24/10 at 9:53am
"It's deja vu all over again..."
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post #7 of 23
2/24/10 at 1:20pm
Either i'm very stupid and i'm completely missing the point, or i'm brighter than i thought because it all seems very obvious to me. Electronic companys have been ripping us off for years with overpriced goods and redicluless claims. Its all about marketing. They release a series of different versions of the same product with the budget model stripped bare and the 'deluxe' model retaining all the features. It actually costs more to produce the budget model because the 'deluxe' model is the base model and the budget model is stripped back.

Another massive con is HDMI leads. You can pay in excess of £100 for a HDMI lead and for what? It won't do anything a £3 lead won't do. The picture and sound quality will be exactly the same because its a digital signal so theres no degration. Ok it may have a bit of extra shielding and be a bit more durable but £100 worth? i don't think so.
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post #8 of 23
2/24/10 at 1:28pm
Its like Audiophile headphones with a top freq response of 37000! Whats the point of that, the average adult ear can only hear up to 16000. All about marketing and getting more cash out of us.
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post #9 of 23
2/24/10 at 2:25pm
yep. It's like that site that pops up on here all the time between different bit rates. If you will notice 1/2 the people get it right, and the other half get it wrong. The half that gets it right swears up and down they heard the differences and the half that got it wrong says the test is flawed.

What it all boils down to is that you have to take everything on this site and similar sites with a gigantic grain of salt, because about .001% is based on double blind testing.
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post #10 of 23
2/24/10 at 2:35pm
and I would have had a huge crush on Poppy Crum if I had met her in college.
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post #11 of 23
2/24/10 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by jamesy999 View Post
Its like Audiophile headphones with a top freq response of 37000! Whats the point of that, the average adult ear can only hear up to 16000. All about marketing and getting more cash out of us.
But I can hear above 20000 =[

=P
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post #12 of 23
2/24/10 at 3:00pm
typical.
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post #13 of 23
2/24/10 at 3:06pm
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But I can hear above 20000 =[

=P
Then you have exceptional hearing. That still leaves 17000 kHz that are completely useless
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post #14 of 23
2/25/10 at 4:10pm
hmm I found this video pretty interesting
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post #15 of 23
2/25/10 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by jamesy999 View Post
Its like Audiophile headphones with a top freq response of 37000! Whats the point of that, the average adult ear can only hear up to 16000. All about marketing and getting more cash out of us.
Not just adults listen to audio.

I don't even have good ears and I can hear 17khz on low volume, 19khz on high volume. Just because the average is 16khz doesn't mean there are some people who can hear upwards of 21khz.

Although I do agree that there's no point past 25. Or at least the chances of someone buying it who is able to hear 25khz are so slim that it's not worth manufacturing.

Of course, that's not even considering the fact that probably 99% of all music is below 15khz, and just about all is below 20khz. If you use Foobar, use the Spectrum visualization with 40-80 bands and stretch it horizontally so you can see the frequency. There are only a handful of songs I have that reach all the way up to 20-21khz, and they're all pop songs.
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