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Another Cmoy hiss problem

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Hi, this is my first post on these forums, and im already asking for help..
A few weeks ago, i built my first amp, a simple cmoy, that didnt work at all because of blown caps..Instead of changing the caps, i made another board, again with used caps - it worked, quite well on low levels, but once i turned the pot, with the volume increase increased the ammount of hiss..Talked to a teacher, he said i should use multithread wire and increase the resistance on the negative feedback loop..
Another issue is the lack of bass at any level.When at full volume, everything i can hear is the mid frequencies, everything else being(or being covered by) hiss.
I made a third a few days ago, thinking it was the caps, this time using smaller, still old though, caps, with everything else new.The hiss was identical to the old one.
Here are some more details on the build - its the standard cmoy schematic from tangentsoft.
RLED - 10k; currently no Rled/led connected on it.
R1 - 4.7k
R2 - 100k
R3 - 2.2k
R4 - 10k
R5 - hiss is the same with a bridge and 47 ohm resistor..
C1 - 220u
C2 - 100n(0.1u); old, couldnt find new anywhere.
10k pot, multithread wire everywhere, 9v battery.
IC is TL072/LM2904.

I havent tried that feedback loop thing, i wanted to know all possible problems before gutting this one or making a fourth..
post #2 of 4
I would get that TL072 out and modify it by jumping up and down on it for 5 minutes, then stick in something like a OPA2134 and see how it sounds
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Thread Starter 
haha i thought it could be that, but i live in Europe and thus have limited access to components.. From your reply, im guessing LM2904 is bad too?

I will try to get a better opamp at first opportunity.
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Thread Starter 
I just got home from school, eager to fix this buzzing.. i doubled the value of r4, from 10 to 20k ohms, and the buzzing was definetly less. The problem is, i didnt have any 20k resistors, so i used 4 from some older projects, making 2 pairs, one for each channel..After placing them, one channel was much less louder than the other. Could that have been caused by a cold joint somewhere, or whould a cold joint just kill that channel?

The sound quality is good, to a certain volume level, and once i pass it, its like moving every slider up on an equaliser, loud and noisy..Is that the opamp, or could it be that R4 resistance still not being big enough..?I dont get why r4 fixes this, while others work fine with no adjustments at all..
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