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post #91 of 170
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acrylic is a plastic
 


Fair enough.  Never thought of it as a 'type' of plastic.  I always think of my aquariums when I hear 'acrylic', never thought of them as plastic.

 

 

"Plastics can be classified by chemical structure, namely the molecular units that make up the polymer's backbone and side chains. Some important groups in these classifications are the acrylicspolyesterssiliconespolyurethanes, and halogenated plastics. Plastics can also be classified by the chemical process used in their synthesis, such ascondensationpolyaddition, and cross-linking.[4]"

post #92 of 170

Does the stem of your customs enter only the first bend of the ear canal? Apparently that's the furthest I can fit mine.

post #93 of 170

are they meant to go much further than the first bend?

 

i remember someone saying that earsonics's dont go in as far some others.

 

cant recall who though,... might have been in the sm3 thread?

post #94 of 170

A shallower fit surely makes for easier insertion and removal?  I can't see how having a stem that pokes your brain actually leads to better sound, as long as the nozzle seals properly.  Isn't that the whole point of customs - that they seal the ear off completely rather than fill the entire length of the ear canal?

 

post #95 of 170

Well customs do fill up the majority of your ear so if it doesn't go much past the 1st bend there will be more room to take it out and put it in. I can see it being a bit easier.

post #96 of 170
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Originally Posted by Bennyboy71 View Post

A shallower fit surely makes for easier insertion and removal?  I can't see how having a stem that pokes your brain actually leads to better sound, as long as the nozzle seals properly.  Isn't that the whole point of customs - that they seal the ear off completely rather than fill the entire length of the ear canal?

 


Well, a counter-reasoning is that fitting only on the outside lets it dislodge more easily...the problem I'm having now.

 

It blocks out plenty of sound, but not as much as the Trips. That's all I'm saying. Instead of sitting in the canal it's er, sitting *on* it. It's not plugging the ear canal.

post #97 of 170

I had the same impression coming from Etymothics but the Earsonics boss told me it is meant to be this way, feel natural, not forced. Using a tiny drop of OTO-Ease lubricant made improved the seal and it stays a while so thats great.

But I see what you mean ...

post #98 of 170

Maybe it's because I'm one of those who's not very picky. I didn't mind ER6i's 'ear ra**', and the LW felt pretty comfortable. So the decrease of isolation from LW's to EM1-iFI's is going to take a bit getting used to for me.

 

The sound is really very natural however...I'm definitely upgrading to EM3-Pros some years down the road.

 

I wonder if he could consider making the seal deeper for more isolation, because that was the first reason I bought customs in the first place. Great music and near-zero ambient noise.

post #99 of 170

Well the EM3Pro has silicone filled inside while the one that you have doesn't correct? I think that will give you all the isolation you may want.

post #100 of 170
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

Well the EM3Pro has silicone filled inside while the one that you have doesn't correct? I think that will give you all the isolation you may want.


They are not silicon filled, they are acrylic filled, in short, they are one solid acrylic piece!

The EM1's are hollow and part of the upgrade is making them to be solid.

post #101 of 170

and so,... the countdown begins.

 

impressions and funds received, instructions sent,...

 

now all i have to do is wait.

 

I gotta say, dealing with Earsonics has been a real pleasure, and its been piss easy really. 

 

post #102 of 170

I don't know about the other custom companies (Jerry Harvey and Fitear seems to have pretty good CS responses), but I have sent at least 7 e-mails to Mr. Lopez so far and he hasn't show any signs of irritation.

 

This man is great.

post #103 of 170
Thread Starter 

I remember that I was in Italy in a business trip when I was ordering mine, I sent him an email with some questions and suddenly my phone rang and it was Mr. Lopez! ready to answer my questions! This is not service, this is total commitment!

post #104 of 170

This is sickening. Part of the fault lies in me not clarifying things before going into the purchase, I suppose...

 

I was expecting to at least keep the same level of isolation, with increased performance. Instead, I get better music than my previous pair of customs, but I can hear people talking.

 

In the library.

 

With other customs, you have problems even hearing traffic.

 

Plus it takes more than 2x the effort to get max. isolation from my EM1's.

 

Next time, I'll ask Mr. Lopez whether I can customise the stem to extend slightly further into the 2nd bend...or I'll just get something else.

 

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Originally Posted by Bennyboy71 View Post

A shallower fit surely makes for easier insertion and removal?  I can't see how having a stem that pokes your brain actually leads to better sound, as long as the nozzle seals properly.  Isn't that the whole point of customs - that they seal the ear off completely rather than fill the entire length of the ear canal?

 


The outside of the ear is connected right to the 1st bend. That means any slight disturbance to the outside will shake the stem, too.

 

What I'm experiencing now is that with even the slightest movements of turning my head left and right, I can lose my (already) unstable seal.

 

Extension of the stem into the 2nd bend may cause discomfort because the customs now rely on the structure of the outer ear to not move out of position so easily - but for that very slight discomfort I'll have the near-perfect isolation that bests even the Etymotic triple flange's.

 

It doesn't have to lead to better sound. First, the problem of good seal must be solved. Most universals offer that problem, and customs were made to solve that problem, besides other problems.

 

Also, for all customs there is an absence in the issue with taking out customs. MIA head-fier Kosmic has thought a removal technique so simple even kindergarden children can master it in minutes. I have further proven with my EM1's that the technique is applicable to all customs so far - the simple act of pushing the bottom of the ears with the thumb dislodges the customs painlessly and effortlessly - unless one has ears that clings onto foreign objects.


Edited by K.I. Unlimited - 7/25/10 at 9:02pm
post #105 of 170

Sounds like you need a refit.

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