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post #76 of 170

Joe- you've boarded the EM3Pro boat? Excellent. 

post #77 of 170
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Originally Posted by knopi View Post

Domdom if this is your first custom's there is a big possibility that you don't have to have the right fit. I am speaking from my experience. If you are not full satisfied something is wrong because these custom's like jh13, em3-pro.. are sure excellent sounding..


This is hard to tell, the fit is good but this is no soft rubber or silicon which is flexible but "rigid" earpiece so it fits differently and Earsonics tells me this is the way I am supposed to wear them. I would have thought it fits more "into" the ear so I may look into this but this wont bring anymore trebble I guess.

 

I may speak to Earsonics in a few weeks to discuss things with them. I think the tough challenge is to accept a listening experience way closer to reality than cheaper products which tend to exagerate some aspect.

ER4P are vers clinical and detailed but not as natural for sure and certainly lacking bass and medium from EM3Pro

So lets see and wait for more feedback

post #78 of 170

Just tried this

- 2,5 dB at 150 Hz / Q= 1
- 4,0 dB at 250 Hz / Q=0,5
- 2,5 dB at 350 Hz / Q=1
+ 1,0 dB at 4000 Hz / Q=0,5
- 2,0 dB at 10 000 Hz / Q=1

 

Am I crazy or what? it sounds clearer, slightly more precise if you see what I mean ...

Have you tried to mess around with the EQ? I dont like to do that but it feels better, is it cheating :)

happy to hear from EQ specialists ...

post #79 of 170
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Originally Posted by Domdom View Post

Just tried this

- 2,5 dB at 150 Hz / Q= 1
- 4,0 dB at 250 Hz / Q=0,5
- 2,5 dB at 350 Hz / Q=1
+ 1,0 dB at 4000 Hz / Q=0,5
- 2,0 dB at 10 000 Hz / Q=1

 

Am I crazy or what? it sounds clearer, slightly more precise if you see what I mean ...

Have you tried to mess around with the EQ? I dont like to do that but it feels better, is it cheating :)

happy to hear from EQ specialists ...


You are not crazy, you just are not used to hearing this level of harmonics and detail. The etys are very forward and colored in the highs, the crispness is obviously artificial but some like that. EQ the em3 is not cheating, but I suggest you continue to wear them without, you are re-educating your ears....

 

post #80 of 170

In term of transparency which one is better between EM3 pro VS JH13, because it's hard to ignore defferences the number of driver between them

post #81 of 170

How long did your Earsonics customs take to arrive, on average? I've been waiting for mine nearly a week after the status changed to "Delivered".

post #82 of 170

I think delivered means its gone from their factory. So depending on where you live it may take up to 2 weeks. Yours should arrive soon. My 2c

post #83 of 170
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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post

You are not crazy, you just are not used to hearing this level of harmonics and detail. The etys are very forward and colored in the highs, the crispness is obviously artificial but some like that. EQ the em3 is not cheating, but I suggest you continue to wear them without, you are re-educating your ears....

 

I still have my EM3s but now I am using a Cowon J3 (EQ set on "classical") and I have to say: clarity and detail of the J3 go well together with the warmth of EM3. Just had them for a few days so I still need to "rediscover" my music library but it is getting to be something decent.

BTW there was a loose connection in the left ear, it seems to be known and Earsonics will fix it as soon as they get them back by mail.
 

post #84 of 170

Hey GuyDebord, I've been looking into customs for a while now, and these seem to be getting praised left right and centre...

 

One question: What are they made of? Is it acryllic? I ask because comfort is number 1 priority for me (I'll happily sacrifice some sound quality if I can have them in my ears for over 6 hours) and I've never had a full plastic earphone in my ear, so I have no idea what kind of "feeling" you get with it. I would have imagined it cannot be extremely comfortable after a prolongued period of time... but I may be wrong. That is the reason why I was looking at the ACS T1s because  of the silicon casing. 

 

Care to throw away my worries and tell me a bit about these lovely customs? :)

post #85 of 170

They seem to be made of hard plastic but after a few minutes, with the heat of the ear, you can even moisturize it with a bit of saliva, it feels pretty good. The other day I wore it for over 3 hours and it felt ok. You can even improve it with 1 drop of "oto-ease" from Westone, it lubricates the contact with your ears and its even better.

The only thing the mold has to be done properly I suppose ...

post #86 of 170

So the EM3Pro is plastic and not acrylic?  

 

I know quite a few people do it but Saliva in the ear is not the best idea.  Get some tap water at least.  Or have your dog lick them, geez.


Edited by Anaxilus - 7/16/10 at 3:30pm
post #87 of 170

Honestly I dont know but it feels like hard plastic it is not flexible (EM3Pro btw not 4 )

saliva is just convenient wherever you are, but since I used a drop of OTO stuff it seems to stay there quite a while and I didnt use saliva since. I believe its around $3 a drop ... no kidding ... worth trying ....

post #88 of 170

edited, typo.

post #89 of 170
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Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post

So the EM3Pro is plastic and not acrylic?  

 

I know quite a few people do it but Saliva in the ear is not the best idea.  Get some tap water at least.  Or have your dog lick them, geez.

 

acrylic is a plastic
 

post #90 of 170
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Originally Posted by ZimmerX View Post

Hey GuyDebord, I've been looking into customs for a while now, and these seem to be getting praised left right and centre...

 

One question: What are they made of? Is it acryllic? I ask because comfort is number 1 priority for me (I'll happily sacrifice some sound quality if I can have them in my ears for over 6 hours) and I've never had a full plastic earphone in my ear, so I have no idea what kind of "feeling" you get with it. I would have imagined it cannot be extremely comfortable after a prolongued period of time... but I may be wrong. That is the reason why I was looking at the ACS T1s because  of the silicon casing. 

 

Care to throw away my worries and tell me a bit about these lovely customs? :)

 

The EM3pro's are made of solid acrylic (and yes, its a type of plastic), they feel very solid, much more than the JH's, and are very comfortable to wear, I have used mine in several transatlantic flights non-stop (I take them out only for eating), without any comfort issues. I cannot comment on ACS because I havent tried them, but I know by fact that they are much harder to insert and remove than the EM3's. I hope this helps....


 

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