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post #91 of 595
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It seems some of you don't really understand what Isone Pro is designed for.

 

It's purpose is to make your headphones sound like you are listening to speakers in a room, with the sound coming from the same position as speakers would in real life--in front of you on either side. The parameters in Isone Pro allow you to specify the distance of the listening position to the speakers, how wide apart the speakers are (this feature is coming), the size of the room, and also head/ear parameters to match your uniquely sized head and ears and how they affect what you hear in real life.

 

It's a tool for professional audio people who sometimes need to work on headphones, but have been wary of it due to the drastic stereo separation of headphones (no natural crossfeed like with speakers). Isone Pro takes it a few steps further beyond simple crossfeed and allow you to simulate specific listening environtments and speaker cabinets so you can check how your mix will sound on difference types of speakers, including common consumer ones like flat screen TV speakers, small multimedia speakers, car stereos, or even how your mix sounds when someone is standing outside the room. These are incredibly useful tools to the audio professional, because now they don't have to burn a mix every time and then go around to different parts of the house and to their car to check their mix in different environments and on different devices. All of these features are complete overkill and unnecessary for non-audio professionals or musicians, but typical music lovers and audiophiles can still benefit greatly from those features that are relevant to them--mainly the simulation of listening to speakers in front of you in a room of your choosing.

 

Some of you probably didn't read the manual either, thus not understanding how Isone Pro operates. In the manual, it's greatly stressed that the user match Isone Pro's parameters to the reference monitor speakers they use for audio work, so that when they put on headphones, it will sound as much like those speakers as possible in terms of cabinet positioning and room acoustics. That right away tells you what Isone Pro was designed for. If you don't even have reference monitor speakers in your setup, then you won't even understand that aspect of this plugin. But even then, you can still create an ideal listening environment via Isone Pro so that you can have the perfect virtual listening room every time you put on your headphones. It's not just a crossfeed plugin--it is a virtual listening environment simulator meant to sound very real.

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To put it simply: Isone Pro loses more details but creates a deeper soundstage and a stronger central phantom image, while HeadFit retains more details but the central image is weaker. VNoPhones retains almost all details but there is no "out of your head experience". This is how I hear it.

 

I think the dilemma "more details vs. better soundstage" is unavoidable. It's just not possible to have both.

post #94 of 595

A brilliant piece of software audio engineering, highly recommended!

post #95 of 595
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Isone Pro isn't really losing details--it is simulating what happens naturally when sound is being heard in a room environment and also your head/ear's interaction with the sound from speakers in a room. It's turning your headphones into speakers, and that's how your headphones will sound as speakers in a room. You can turn off the head/ear and room simulations and keep only the crossfeed if you choose to.

post #96 of 595

From my testing over the past two days, I'm not experiencing any loss of detail. Conversely, I'm hearing more detail over a wider headstage.

 

I'm very much impressed with this software!

post #97 of 595

what are you all using to use multiple vst's at the same time in foobar?  Ive tried effects chainer but its not working well

post #98 of 595
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what are you all using to use multiple vst's at the same time in foobar?  Ive tried effects chainer but its not working well


The best implementation of hosting multiple VST's at the same time is J Rivers Media Center (version 14 and up). It does it natively. I can also host something like Xulop Chainer in it and then load a bunch of plugins inside of Chainer and save various preset chains--extremely useful when you want to switch between different chains easily and quickly. Although Media Center allow you to save out DSP sets too, they can't share the same playback settings, so I use Chainer isntead.

post #99 of 595

Thats how I felt about it.  Could it be a Denon synergy thing?  I doubt any open can will compete with a Denon and good X feed combo in terms of soundstaging capabilities. 
 

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From my testing over the past two days, I'm not experiencing any loss of detail. Conversely, I'm hearing more detail over a wider headstage.

 

I'm very much impressed with this software!

post #100 of 595

are you challenging the Mighty Thunderpants to  a duel? 

 

i just cant get used to Isone pro... the frequency responses change no matter what i do and i just dont like the difference in the clarity of the sound... otherwise it would be great

post #101 of 595

LOL! Not if the Mighty Thunderpants is indeed mighty, and it wears pants that in some way are thunderous.

 

I am starting to believe that as we have amping synergy - there will also be DSP synergy.  No big deal really.  My next mission is to download every crossfeed plug-in available and to understand it some more.

post #102 of 595

let us know if you find anything good.

 

you should talk to leeperry.. he is a crossfeed plugin testing machine.. 

 

thunderpants vs d7000 would be great fun... ive only ever owned/heard the d2000... but its pretty universally accepted that the d7000 are way better, so i dont know what they are like

 

the thunderpants suuuuuure are mighty though...  if nothing else it would be one heck of a duel


Edited by Br777 - 7/5/10 at 10:04pm
post #103 of 595

Hmmm...Explosive thunder VS Earthquake shake.

post #104 of 595

welll it could be that my ears are beyond shot, but the non surround version does seem to do better with maintaining the integrity of the frequency response..

 

post #105 of 595

i have to admit, the more i play with this program the more it grows on me.   it really is quite amazing to hear the soundstage of these headphones blow open so drastically.  A really great example of what its capable of is listening to the head-fi open your ears cd - the first track that is the accapella of stuck in a moment.. Once i have had isone on for a while, and turn it back off, it feels like the guys singing went from standing a few feet away from me in a big circle, to crammed together around my head.. it really is something you've got to at least try.  

 

at first i was trying to get minimum frequency loss and was being very timid with both the the cue stregth and room adjustment, but now im finding myself opening them up more and more

i still keep the distance pretty close though..   i think having the head and ear adjustments on is a must otherwise the sound really does go to crap, but adjusting those correctly really makes a difference.  it doesnt seem like it does until you dial it in just right.. its like finding a sweet spot.

 

anyway im definately going to keep spending time with this, and probably use it regularly. 

 

BTW if anyone finds anything else like this that is comperable definatley let us know

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