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post #826 of 932

Can someone please explain to me how the HD800 is so damn amp dependent?  Every one that has the HD800 has a respectively different amp and "all" these amps are said to sound good with them.  To much hyperbole here.

 

Just saying..

post #827 of 932
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Can someone please explain to me how the HD800 is so damn amp dependent?  Every one that has the HD800 has a respectively different amp and "all" these amps are said to sound good with them.  To much hyperbole here.

 

Just saying..


Agreed. People confuse preference with necessity.

post #828 of 932
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Can someone please explain to me how the HD800 is so damn amp dependent?  Every one that has the HD800 has a respectively different amp and "all" these amps are said to sound good with them.  To much hyperbole here.

 

Just saying..


LOL...so true.

 

 

If you are not using the amp some poster is raving about, you are just not getting the full potential out of your HD800...and if you are not getting that last 1% of sound quality out of your headphones (no matter what the cost), you are a failure and you might as well be dead.  :dt880smile: 

post #829 of 932
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Originally Posted by GardenVariety View Post
 


Agreed. People confuse preference with necessity.

 

Yes just like the people who say you have to use a tube amp.

post #830 of 932
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Can someone please explain to me how the HD800 is so damn amp dependent?  Every one that has the HD800 has a respectively different amp and "all" these amps are said to sound good with them.  To much hyperbole here.

Just saying..

Thank you for your post! It needed to be said, long ago.
post #831 of 932
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Originally Posted by musicman59 View Post
 

I own both and agree with this BUT IMO both require a recable job with a good OCC copper cable.

 

 

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I have no idea how you could believe this. I mean, you may say I PREFER the T1 with a prettier cable but to say REQUIRE that a very well built cable needs replacement is odd.

 

He's got to be trying to elicit a response. If he really has them and doesn't like them he could easily trade them for 1000 paperweights. 

 

I think I was clear in my post when I said IMO....

That's only what I am expressing based on my own equipment, preference in sound signature and preference in music.

Everybody is free to express his/her own opinion and believe whatever wanted.

 

You may or may not have made a direct comparison of a stock T1 and a recabled T1. It does not matter, what matter is what you believe and you are free to express it.

 

In my case I made sure to qualify my comment saying it was my own opinion. Peace.

post #832 of 932
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Originally Posted by musicman59 View Post
 

 

 

 

I think I was clear in my post when I said IMO....

That's only what I am expressing based on my own equipment, preference in sound signature and preference in music.

Everybody is free to express his/her own opinion and believe whatever wanted.

 

You may or may not have made a direct comparison of a stock T1 and a recabled T1. It does not matter, what matter is what you believe and you are free to express it.

 

In my case I made sure to qualify my comment saying it was my own opinion. Peace.


Agreed. I was not trying to imply you or anyone else couldn't express their opinion. I was merely expressing my mine.

post #833 of 932
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Thank you for your post! It needed to be said, long ago.

 

Exaxtly. I'm totally satisfied with my HD800 und O2+ODAC combo. Nothing to blame. I tried a lot of other neutral amps and the differences were not audible. So why burn 1000€ for a "so called" better amp without getting any benefit ?

post #834 of 932
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Originally Posted by TheDuke990 View Post
 

 

Exaxtly. I'm totally satisfied with my HD800 und O2+ODAC combo. Nothing to blame. I tried a lot of other neutral amps and the differences were not audible. So why burn 1000€ for a "so called" better amp without getting any benefit ?

I beg to disagree, also own the O2/ODAC and the HD-800 sounds good on it a low volumes.  But -fortunately I hasten to add- there's a real and very audible difference when I dive it with my V800/V200 combo.  Of course, the latter costs >10 times the price of the former and spec wise they're totally different, at its price the O2/ODAC are very hard to beat.  When I auditioned the HD-800 on a Burson conductor I found the sound signature to be noticeably more analytic.  And last but not least, when I connect them to my recently acquired Darkvoice 337 tube amp and despite many people saying that it's a bad pairing, to me they sound glorious, the  tubes take just a bit of the sometimes harsh treble away.  This comes from a guy who was not a tube amp fan AT ALL but when  I had the opportunity to purchase the 337 used at a very good price, I jumped at it, more a case of being able to actually argue from own experience when another ss/tube fight erupted.  Well, I was wrong.  Note that I'm not saying that one system is 'better' than the other but imho there IS (or can be) an objective difference in the sound.  Wishing everyone a relaxing musical weekend!

post #835 of 932

Maybe it is better for you because the tube amp and V200 are a little bit on the dark side and not absolute neutral like the O2 is but I have no problems with the treble of my HD800.

post #836 of 932
Thread Starter 

In my experiences, the HD800s are the pickiest and most difficult to get right dynamic headphones. When I wrote my initial review between the T1 and HD800 on this thread almost 4 years ago (holy moly...I can't believe it was almost 4 years ago :eek:) I ended up preferring the T1s to the HD800s on my rig. Back then it was a pedestrian MAD Ear+HD / Cambridge Audio DAC Magic. But over the past several years I've slowly upgraded my front end (part of the journey I guess) and here I am 4 years later with the HD800s still here and the T1s sold. Basically, long story short, the T1s capped out a lot quicker; while the HD800s kept scaling and scaling....

post #837 of 932
I've been fortunate, then. The HD-800 sounded good from the start, even with the modest DV3322. I do remember reading, a bit after the HP was released, a lot of comments about the sharp treble and non-existent bass. There seemed to be a large number of defectors back then. Again, maybe mine were broken (in the right way!) because I never heard any of those negatives. It sounded as great then as it does now, even though I've used about 5 different amps (and as many DACs) with them over the years. For me, after trying almost every big ticket headphone (except the Abyss) with excellent systems, the HD-800 remains a wonder! Inevitably, we will be seeing other great HPs arrive in the future, but the 800 will continue to be regarded as a pivotal landmark in the world of audio.

What has surprised me even more than hearing $1000-$3000 models in my recent travels around the headphone merry-go-round, is the fine offerings available for less than $500. Great sound can be had at many price levels these days.
Edited by Mambosenior - 1/17/14 at 8:16pm
post #838 of 932
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Originally Posted by Mambosenior View Post

I've been fortunate, then. The HD-800 sounded good from the start, even with the modest DV3322. I do remember reading, right when the HP was released that it ca

No doubt that the HD800s still sounded darn good from my initial setup...but they have continued to reward me along the way. :o

post #839 of 932

The T1 don't sound good on all amps either - correct?  Does that make the T1 a picky headphone?  Same goes with LCDs, AKG, HiFiMans and other Sennheisers.  In fact, you can say that about all headphones.  

 

This "the HD800s are the pickiest and most difficult to get right" is a Head Fi myth. It all comes down to preference.  

post #840 of 932
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

This "the HD800s are the pickiest and most difficult to get right" is a Head Fi myth. 

It's hyperbole, however, the HD800's scale much higher than the T1. And they are quite fussy comparative to most headphones.


Edited by paradoxper - 1/18/14 at 5:28am
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