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post #811 of 933
+1 I now own a T1 and feel it hits the sweet spot for sound stage, sound reproduction, and comfort. The huge cups on the 800 wrapped around my face and was annoying. . I feel the T1 goes deeper and just sounds better, the highs are sweeter too.
post #812 of 933
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Originally Posted by rommy View Post

+1 I now own a T1 and feel it hits the sweet spot for sound stage, sound reproduction, and comfort. The huge cups on the 800 wrapped around my face and was annoying. . I feel the T1 goes deeper and just sounds better, the highs are sweeter too.

for comfort it has to be the HD800 for me. The cups of the T1 are just too small, i find this very annoying after a while and i just keep moving them on my head, i remember thinking that i might have this problem before i bought them so i asked around and got mixed answers. Then sure enough they were too small. The HD800 - if you have bigger ears are far more comfortable and for me there is no clamping on the jaw. 

 

I might that while the T1 is not as comfortable as the HD800 they are the 2nd most comfortable headphone that i have tried - just for long sessions i have to use the senns. I wish the cups were just a bit bigger maybe about another centimeter in radius so that they would not touch my ear. 


Edited by magiccabbage - 1/2/14 at 7:34am
post #813 of 933

This seems like a good thread to get some input;

 

So I am currently planning on auditioning and then buying one of the pair of HD800 + T1 in March/April or earlier if I can find the time...

 

There's a hell of a lot of info here and it might take me a couple more days to finish the entire thread (around life oc...)

For the following music which one would you recommend (or others if they might do better...)

 

1. Soundtracks (Lord of the Rings / Gladiator etc) 25%

2. Opera (Wagner *esp Der Ring* / Britten / Puccini / Weber) 20%

3. Classical (Holst / Strauss / Stravinsky / Mendelssohn / Janacek) 20%

4. Pop 15%

5. Rock 15%

6. Techno / House 5% 

 

 

Temporary amp/dac is ODAC/O2 while saving for Resonessence Invicta (or similar - am auditioning this at the same time) though if it makes a large enough improvement I shall acquire a Resonessence Concero HP for the meantime.

 

(alternative amp / dac for £800 would also be welcome for known synergy with HD800/T1)

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions and help.

 

 

P.S. Mods if this works better somewhere else please move it / ask me to (just thought this thread looked too good to pass up!)

post #814 of 933

 

1. Soundtracks (Lord of the Rings / Gladiator etc) 25%

2. Opera (Wagner *esp Der Ring* / Britten / Puccini / Weber) 20%

3. Classical (Holst / Strauss / Stravinsky / Mendelssohn / Janacek) 20%

4. Pop 15%

5. Rock 15%

6. Techno / House 5% 

 

 

 

 

1. Either

2. HD800

3. HD800

4. T1

5. T1

6. T1

post #815 of 933
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

 

1. Either

2. HD800

3. HD800

4. T1

5. T1

6. T1

+1 all across the board.

post #816 of 933
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

 

1. Either

2. HD800

3. HD800

4. T1

5. T1

6. T1

I own both and agree with this BUT IMO both require a recable job with a good OCC copper cable.

post #817 of 933

And the winner in category "smallest part of getting best music quality" goes to -> the cable !

The influence is so small. There are a lot of more factors which have an influence to the music.

 

1. quality of the sound file

2. headphone

3. AMP

4. DAC

5. cable

And last but not least your own performance (form of the day)

 

I'm happy with the HD800 stock cable.

 

btw ... the ZEUS homepage is really bad. So confusing :(.

post #818 of 933
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Originally Posted by TheDuke990 View Post
 

And the winner in category "smallest part of getting best music quality" goes to -> the cable !

The influence is so small. There are a lot of more factors which have an influence to the music.

 

1. quality of the sound file

2. headphone

3. AMP

4. DAC

5. cable

And last but not least your own performance (form of the day)

 

I'm happy with the HD800 stock cable.

 

btw ... the ZEUS homepage is really bad. So confusing :(.

 

I agree with with you but in my case I already have all of those with a check mark.

 

1. Either WAVE files or FLAC H-Rez

2. HD800 and T1

3. Woo WA5-LE with all electronic upgrades, wiring upgrade and tube upgrades.

4. Bricasti M1

5. Zeus OCC Copper

6. Interconnects: WireWorld Eclipse 6

7. Power cords: WireWorld Electra 5.2

 

So I was taking about my own opinion based on my own system.

 

Yes, the page is a little confusing

post #819 of 933
I prefer HD800 for all of those genres, though I don't like the T1 for anything except a paper weight so there's that. I was impressed by the objective stack driving the HD800 at a recent meet. It lacked a little in dynamics but was really quite fine for everything else. I have heard the Concero HP with the HD800 and it was better for sure, but it is mostly the DAC I believe as the included amp is good but nothing special. I have heard the Invicta with the HD800 and that is a fine combo, but I feel it is overpriced by about double. It is a lot in a little package, though the Concero HP wins the space award and doesn't cost a ton for the miniaturization.
post #820 of 933
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

I prefer HD800 for all of those genres, though I don't like the T1 for anything except a paper weight so there's that. I was impressed by the objective stack driving the HD800 at a recent meet. It lacked a little in dynamics but was really quite fine for everything else. I have heard the Concero HP with the HD800 and it was better for sure, but it is mostly the DAC I believe as the included amp is good but nothing special. I have heard the Invicta with the HD800 and that is a fine combo, but I feel it is overpriced by about double. It is a lot in a little package, though the Concero HP wins the space award and doesn't cost a ton for the miniaturization.

 

I wonder how pretentious and/or stupid to be to refer to the T1s as a paper weight. 

post #821 of 933

Yea, I agree, leng. An LCD-2 much better serves as a paperweight. The T1, meh. 

post #822 of 933
I'd take the DT880 over the T1 any day.
post #823 of 933

We could perhaps shift to arguing the flaws in Anselm of Canterbury's ontological proof, that one's been going on for close to a thousand years too with still no definite resolution in sight.  If I've learned one thing -returning to headphones- then it's that there's no such thing as a one size fits all approach.  I own 3 reasonably high end cans and none of them really blows the other 2 out of the water all across the board and that's only taking into account my preferred music genre (classical).  But although I prefer mine i'd certainly not consider the T1 a paperweight.

post #824 of 933
I believe the HD 800 is so amp-dependent because it needs the right amp change its signature sound. The HD 800 sounds rather be dead until it is paired with a good ss amp
post #825 of 933
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Originally Posted by musicman59 View Post
 

I own both and agree with this BUT IMO both require a recable job with a good OCC copper cable.

 

I have no idea how you could believe this. I mean, you may say I PREFER the T1 with a prettier cable but to say REQUIRE that a very well built cable needs replacement is odd.

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Originally Posted by leng jai View Post
 

 

I wonder how pretentious and/or stupid to be to refer to the T1s as a paper weight. 

 

He's got to be trying to elicit a response. If he really has them and doesn't like them he could easily trade them for 1000 paperweights. 

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