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post #1 of 43
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I'm upgrading my amp and DAC very soon to a ~$1500 setup (undecided as to what amp and DAC yet), and in about half a year I intend to upgrade my headphones as well, so I thought I would ask here.

I don't have any preference between open and closed, but I primarily listen to any type of rock, such as punk, indie, alternative, hard, grunge, etc., as well as some electronic, acoustic, and vocal stuff, and a little hip-hop.

My new setup will not use tubes, purely SS. I was looking at a few options.

- Beyerdynamic T1 (~$1000)
- JVC HP-DX1000 (~$1100)
- Lawton Audio LA7000 Lite (~$1200)

Now coming from my partial modded D5000s, I like their sound but would like a somewhat more balanced headphone, which is what I understand the LA7000 provides, but I've also heard nothing but good things about the others.

So for an SS rig with my musical tastes, what would you recommend from the above 3, or would you recommend something else entirely (sub-$1300)?
post #2 of 43
If you like the D5000, I don't see any reason to not try the higher-end Denons. I heard the LA7000 at a meet, they were really gorgeous - I don't think you'll be disappointed.
post #3 of 43
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Originally Posted by AmanGeorge View Post
If you like the D5000, I don't see any reason to not try the higher-end Denons. I heard the LA7000 at a meet, they were really gorgeous - I don't think you'll be disappointed.
I hear they are quite a bit more forward than the stock Denons, but retain the musicality and are just overall more balanced and better controlled than stocks. If this is true I really think I'd love them.

But at the same time the other two options seem great, decisions decisions.

Does anybody know if the headband/earpads of the DX1000s are real leather by the way? I know the T1 headband is real leather, and I'd use my JMoney pads on the LA7000s, but I'm curious about the DX1000s. Not a big deal if they aren't I just am curious.
post #4 of 43
I don´t think the ear cups on the DX 1000 is real leather but I don´t know... All leather except the ethiopian sheep leather on my ED 8 feels cheap now. The "leather" on the DX 1000 seem to be similar to the one on the markl D5000.

If you enjoy power and clever represented music you may love the DX 1000. They surely are unique at least. Quite euphonic not really neutral or anything. If you don´t need isolation and want the most serious setup how about T1?
post #5 of 43
Mark Lawton does amazing things with Denons. The LA7000 is a sure thing, the others are taking a chance on your personal reaction to their sound.

Now on to your solid state thing. Been there, done that. Know this: there is a certain kind of woman (or man) that you say you would never date, then you do and there is no turning back. Your mom wouldn't approve but you can't get enough.

That's tubes.

Give in to it. You'll thank me later.
post #6 of 43
Are Denons all made in China?
post #7 of 43
I have the LA7000s and love them. Im getting rid of my hd800s because Im always reaching for my la7000s. SS rigs do well with the low impedance of the denons and for your music type they should do everything justice.
post #8 of 43
The Sennheiser HD800 and the Beyerdynamic are pretty much the best headphones I know of. They are entirely new designs, state-of-the-art driver-technology with powerful and experienced family businesses behind them to finance these expensive developments (including rigid scientific research and development with digital models).
But they're not "sounded" as many other headphones, they reveal weaknesses of the recording more than others, they don't veil them with their own specific sound signature.
I decided for the HD800 because of the unsurpassed comfort but they only shine if you listen to well-made records. But the music you like isn't always well-recorded - you get used to it with time.

I've heard Stax (I even owned an Omega II Mk1 for a few weeks) and Denon-flagships as well. I loved the metal-enclosure of the Omega but the mechanic design (rotating earcups and cushions instead of an kardanic design?) and comfort was crappy. The Denons look gorgeous with the magnesium and wood-design. But their build-quality is Chinese (yes, even the 7000 is made for a few $ in a sweatshop - no comparison to the production-sites of Heilbronn and Wedemark), they aren't build together very well and all models I held in my hands already started to fell apart (joints, cables).

Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser care about their "professional" line-ups (not the crap they buy elsewhere <200$) and offer excellent service and replacement parts even after decades.
post #9 of 43
Most german companies is good with build quality. German Maestro, Ultrasone is other examples except for beyer and senn.. I wasn´t particularly impressed by the build quality of the HD 650 though. Headband is fragile.
post #10 of 43
I vote for T1, I have never heard it but I have heard 880 and 990 I also own Denon D5000 and imagine how D7000 sounds. I think with T1 you get perfect balance of everything plus clarity and resolution, plus something extra like everybody who tested it said, musicality or whatever you want to call it
post #11 of 43
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Originally Posted by wavoman View Post
Now on to your solid state thing. Been there, done that. Know this: there is a certain kind of woman (or man) that you say you would never date, then you do and there is no turning back. Your mom wouldn't approve but you can't get enough. That's tubes. Give in to it. You'll thank me later.
LOL. That deserves to be quoted a few times!
post #12 of 43
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But they're not "sounded" as many other headphones, they reveal weaknesses of the recording more than others, they don't veil them with their own specific sound signature..
This statement makes me a bit nervous in regards to the T1. I listen to all my music at 320kbps through Foobar2k downloaded off millisong.com, as I'm far too stingy to pay for the 1500+ songs worth of CDs when I can buy each album for $1.50 to $3.00 (not to mention a lot of my music is now out of production or EXTREMELY hard to find in CD form). I don't know if this would kill the SQ through the T1 or not (although in past experiences I haven't been able to tell the difference between 320kbps and FLAC on any setup I've used except on very complex passages). A lot of the punk music I listen to is fairly poorly recorded as well.

The reason I like T1 is because of how solidly built they look, whereas in comparison I had to tighten a few screws on my Denons right out of the box (although with LA7000s I doubt this would be an issue as I can just ask Mark to go over the assembly for me before shipping them out).

If it helps any, I'm currently leaning towards the Audio-GD DAC19 DSP-1 version and either the Roc or Pheonix (depending on how it's looking financially when it comes time to buy), and will most likely be reterminating whichever headphone I get into a 4-pin XLR either before I get them (LA7000s), or after I give them a listen through the SE output.

Right now I'm leaning towards LA7000.

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Originally Posted by wavoman View Post
Now on to your solid state thing. Been there, done that. Know this: there is a certain kind of woman (or man) that you say you would never date, then you do and there is no turning back. Your mom wouldn't approve but you can't get enough.

That's tubes.

Give in to it. You'll thank me later.
If I go with the T1 I may do just that, but if I go for LA7000 then I'll have to skip the tubes as it's known to work far better with SS.
post #13 of 43

T1s!!!

Having formerly owned the D7000s and re-bought them, heard the JVCs, my vote would be for the T1s!


Edited by MacedonianHero - 8/6/10 at 6:16pm
post #14 of 43
Ah, man... I would hope that you would be all about the D7000's. Definitely my next purchase, apart from the HF-2's.

What about the D7000's caused you to get rid of them, MH?
post #15 of 43
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Originally Posted by sampson_smith View Post
Ah, man... I would hope that you would be all about the D7000's. Definitely my next purchase, apart from the HF-2's.

What about the D7000's caused you to get rid of them, MH?
Well, they aren't exactly the most neutral can if that's what you're looking for :P
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