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Need a mp3 for my FX1000

post #1 of 15
2/9/10 at 6:27pm
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Need help to choose a mp3 player for my JVC FX1000.
it has to be protable (exclude ipod)
right now, i am interest in sony x, iriver and cowon.
any other good advice?

thanks alot!
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post #2 of 15
2/9/10 at 6:48pm
why exclude ipod?the touch 2g have a superb synergy with the fx500(the same as fx1000).
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post #3 of 15
2/9/10 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by midoo1990 View Post
why exclude ipod?the touch 2g have a superb synergy with the fx500(the same as fx1000).
Unless you have 1G - 5.5G, it requires proprietary software.

I'd recommend the Cowon S9. Amazing player, flash based, AWESOME EQ.
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post #4 of 15
2/9/10 at 9:20pm
The sony X has excellent synergy with the FX500/1000. It really helps in smoothing out the highs of those phones. When paired with the X the overall musicality, clarity, bass definition and sense of air around instruments improves. The X was my preferred source for those phones when compared to my touch 2G and sony S730.
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post #5 of 15
2/10/10 at 2:16am
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Originally Posted by midoo1990 View Post
why exclude ipod?the touch 2g have a superb synergy with the fx500(the same as fx1000).
I exclude ipod just because i believe what apple belives, the itouch is designed for entertainment
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post #6 of 15
2/10/10 at 3:37am
Well, it is fine to believe that, but if you go for what Cowon want you to believe: that they are audiophile, you will have: audible bass roll off, higher distortion, and narrower channel separation.

Of course, you will have an okay EQ and some special effects.

Marketing is hardly indicative of anything real. Apple don't advertise SQ while beating most players on the market for things other than EQ. Scum companies (see what I did there) pretend to be 'audiophile', sell cheap stuff top people and reap a following dependent on the marketing.

Any of the players here will sound nice, but if you don't go iPod (and I expect you not to), I would go Sony. The Cowon doesn't have the output needed to make the FX1000 sound its potential unless you use an amp.
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post #7 of 15
2/10/10 at 4:06am
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post
Well, it is fine to believe that, but if you go for what Cowon want you to believe: that they are audiophile, you will have: audible bass roll off, higher distortion, and narrower channel separation.

Of course, you will have an okay EQ and some special effects.

Marketing is hardly indicative of anything real. Apple don't advertise SQ while beating most players on the market for things other than EQ. Scum companies (see what I did there) pretend to be 'audiophile', sell cheap stuff top people and reap a following dependent on the marketing.

Any of the players here will sound nice, but if you don't go iPod (and I expect you not to), I would go Sony. The Cowon doesn't have the output needed to make the FX1000 sound its potential unless you use an amp.
Some people just are not apple fan boys, and some ^^ are. Apple beats other companies at adding crap that isn't needed in a player.
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post #8 of 15
2/10/10 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by Rockford View Post
Some people just are not apple fan boys, and some ^^ are. Apple beats other companies at adding crap that isn't needed in a player.
That's quite a rude comment. So, because he's telling the truth, he's automatically a fanboy? Anti-apple people are really getting on my nerves these days, and I don't even like apple.

Apple isn't forcing you to use any of their "crap". You can just use it as a media player. Their nanos and shuffles are quite overpriced for what you pay for, but their classic and the ipod touch models are great for the money.

I'm guessing you're one of those people that think ipods have a bad sq, and never explain what "bad sound quality" really means. With my FX500s, the ipod touch sounds great. The only thing that has a better synergy is with the Sonys. I honestly don't find Cowon to be "audiophile". When I had my S9 for a little while, it's synergy with the JVCs and the RE0s didn't impress me at all. With all the EQ settings on and set up, it sounded a bit better than my Zune HD. The EQ settings were good for a portable player, but honestly, BBE effects sounded artificial to me and so, I couldn't use too much of it. I don't find forcing people to use an EQ to make it sound better, "audiophile".

Oh, and I'm not some fanboy of apple. I've been a part of Abi for years under the name joyounghoon since 2007.
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post #9 of 15
2/13/10 at 12:54am
I am not one of those people who think ipods have bad SQ, i am one who knows. I have owned enough different ipods to make that distinction.

Your post is rather dense with words, yet does not say very much at all.
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post #10 of 15
2/13/10 at 3:22am
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Originally Posted by Rockford View Post
I am not one of those people who think ipods have bad SQ, i am one who knows. I have owned enough different ipods to make that distinction.

Your post is rather dense with words, yet does not say very much at all.
If you've owned enough of ipods, then what's so bad about it's sq? I don't expect everyone to like the sound, but you haven't told me what's so inferior about it. Just a comment about how shigzeo is a "fanboy" and "I owned enough ipods to make that distinction".
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post #11 of 15
2/13/10 at 1:22pm
I am far from a technical jargon speaking music listener but to put it simply my iphone 3gs, nano 2g, mini 1g, video 5g and 5.5g, and my classic 120gb all had distorting/inaccurate treble having to use the treble reducer for most music which mostly fixed that problem.

Every ipod i have owned (and sold eventually) has always felt very cold sounding compared to my clip+ and the various sony players i have used recently.

The EQ also is piss poor (horrible distorting presets) making it extremely difficult to fix the inherent weakness in the apple players.

I called him an apple fanboy because he has an touch/iphone website and argued against what the op's wishes were ipod wise. Op says he doesn't want to consider ipods, fanboy suggests ipods, simple.
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post #12 of 15
2/13/10 at 2:10pm
I certainly do run an iPod/iPhone website, but the iPod isn't my favourite portable player. It is however, a far more competent player than a lot of players out there. If you want warmth, I wouldn't go for it, but warmth doesn't equal SQ.

The problem is that SQ isn't tied up in any preference, it is tied up in tangible ideas. If it was only opinion oriented, there would be no reason for hi or low end, or dedicated companies or not.

Each has its own sound. Some like cold, some like warm. Some like distortion. The sad fact is that not a single mass-market player has any sway in all categories. If one has good output, it has poor distortion; if one has great frequency response, it is cold. The list goes on and on.

There is no 'knowing' an ipod or any player sucks. There is only believing what you want and arguing against or for certain undeniable criteria.
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post #13 of 15
2/13/10 at 4:47pm
My post in reference to yours was not meant in offense it just seemed that you were toting ipods while running a website for the touch/iphone while the OP was asking to stay away from ipods, no offense meant.
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post #14 of 15
2/14/10 at 12:49am
No offense taken. I am merely supporting certain truths: there is no god player out there. Every brand has a strength and at least one weakness. I own/have owned most companies and allow for their problems and strengths.

What I appreciate of Cowon is their decent EQ - I don't really care for the other effects. For Sony, it is a pretty good handling of lowΩ earphones, though hiss is really horrid. Meizu - again, a decent EQ. Apple - same as Sony - great handling of lowΩ earphones and low distortion. Sansa - good handling of lowΩ earphones and can be rockboxed (this is the best anyone can have).

If each could be rockboxed, however, I'd probably stay with Sony or Apple who technically have superior outputs, whether or not the signature is to someone's liking. The Sony is a bit underpowered, but it also has a line out (have not tested if it is good or not).
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post #15 of 15
2/19/10 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by midoo1990 View Post
why exclude ipod?the touch 2g have a superb synergy with the fx500(the same as fx1000).
I still disagree that the FX1000 is the same as the FX500... Either that or JVCs sample variance is wiiiiiiiiide... The two do not sound very much alike...

That aside, for the FX1000 I think the iPhone 3GS has great synergy... Oh, and for the flame baiters up a few posts, I sold on my Cowon S9 and D2 and got the iPhone 3GS to replace both, because - it sounds better to my ears (without the crazy need of mucking around with 20 different EQ options / settings!!)

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