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post #16 of 22
2/14/10 at 1:35am
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anyone guess why the inspiration is 50% more money per meter than the revelation? the inspirations two leads add up to 12awg. the revelation is 6awg. i'd think more metal costs more, not more dielectric/packaging! or is there some other reason the inspiration is the better cable?

also, i found out they are not exactly cheaper in the uk. the uk shops are selling bulk wire. they charge 200usd to terminate a pair(8 bananas). they explained to me if you just stick it in a banana it will not have the benefit of the carbon. that must be why it is so expensive, to cold+hot weld them.

edit: the revelation is more expensive than the inspiration because you need twice the length as it is only a single conductor. in a finished cable package the inspiration is more expensive for the same length of revelation.

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post #17 of 22
2/15/10 at 5:41pm
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Originally Posted by Lenni View Post
I think I went to their shop a couple years ago as I wasn't living too far from there, but cannot remember if it was called Custom Cable.

I googled Custom Cable's contact number and their address show as 35 High St, New Malden, Surrey (a south west London suburb). I used the satellite view and I recognised the place. is impossible to see the shop from the high st because is hidden behinds other shops, and unless you know what you're looking for or know where it is, you won't know is there; I remember had to ask someone because couldn't find it.

my first impression of the shop wasn't good. it gave the impression of like is wasn't doing very well. the speakers and other gear seemed like they had been there for sometime. it's a small shop and it's crammed with low/mid budget speakers; they're everywhere on the walls, on the floor you can hardly move around; there seemed to be no order, they're scattered everywhere. I'd say 90% of the speakers were British,and since I don't usually buy British I didn't ask or audition anything, just looked around for about 10min.

of course my was just a first impression and doesn't mean much what the shop looks like, and don't know anything about them, but I went to another smaller hi-fi shop and as I went in I was presented with magnificent Sonus Faber towers, Totem's, huge simadio amps, Exposure, etc.- catch my drift?

once I get my fake cable I gonna give them a call and ask if is possible to audition some vdh cables - of course I'm not gonna tell them that my is fake, LOL

i am glad i did not order from them! you are correct these guys are obviously bad news! today they raised the prices of all van den hul cables by about 100pounds per meter! way above their msrp. no other site like future shop did that today! i would stay far away from these folks.

edit: it seems like they raised everything about 100 pounds if you are coming in with a us ip! they raised the prices about double what they were if you come in with a gb ip! i doubt they even have the cables in stock. futureshop still has the legit prices and they ship to us no problem. they are also a reputable dealer afaik. it is the vdh termination that is expensive. if you do not get a vdh termination all but the supernova and carbon cable are dirt cheap at futureshop. they also take out 17.5 vat for customers outside of the uk. it is some good cheap cable this way. you could have a nice set of revelation for a couple hundred vs. over a grand in the us! even if you get the vdh terminations it is less than half the us price.

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post #18 of 22
2/21/10 at 9:25pm
Hi all, thank you for raising the issue in regards to the pricing of the VDH cables. The revelation and revolution speaker cable is priced to us per single run, one for positive and another for negative. This confused a few of our customers and they were not ordering enough of the speaker cable to connect up a pair of their speakers. We now have changed the pricing to include a barreled pair of cables for the revolution and revelation speaker cable and our pricing is direct from their UK distribution. In regards to the termination, unfortunately these cables come pre terminated from the factory.

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post #19 of 22
2/21/10 at 9:34pm
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ok that totally makes sense! you should note on your site it is for a pair run! i thought you just decided to double the price of the single cable. i am sorry i misunderstood what you had done. i am also sorry for the post above. i did not realise that it was for a pair because one day before they were half the price!

is the price (per pair run) if you come to the site from the usa more gbp than if someone visits from the uk? i did not seem to understand that either.

thank you,
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post #20 of 22
2/21/10 at 9:37pm
I have been looking at a few other sites in regards to this exact cable and tbh it is a little confusing as most companies are indeed selling this cable as a mono metre, which to me is useless as a speaker will not run with just a single positive or negative feed. I am curious in regards to the changing of price as this should definately NOT be the case. If however you are logged into the site and you have registered your address as the USA then we will automatically adjust shipping charges to that location.

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post #21 of 22
2/21/10 at 10:14pm
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i am not "logged in" or registered with you. i am just browsing so far.
you did indeed correct that problem tonite. last evening everything was 100 gbp more than it should be(for a positive and negative pair). for instance, the revelation was $305 instead of $205! obviously just a programming mistake. it is all right now(for pairs).

the best deal from you guys would be the inspiration. that cable is much more in the us. the revelation is about the same as in the us.


what makes vdh expensive anywhere is their terminations not the actual cable itself. accroding to vdh, it must have their "tube" termination for the carbon to work.

edit: in fact, all the cables you sell from vdh are much less than in the us. including the revelation. even with the terminations. i assume your termination prices are both ends of one "leg" on on one cable? ie, each side of one negative or each side of one positive. so i assume you need to add the termination option(if one wants it) four times? that is still a lot less money than the us.

i apologize that i did not realise you simply made a mistake about the 100 extra gbp. it is fixed now.

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post #22 of 22
2/22/10 at 10:38am
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i completely take back what i said about custom cable. i had some confusion about the pricing. they explained it to me.
they seem like good people.

in fact their price is less than 1/4 of the prices in the usa for vdh speaker cables with vdh termination! this is exactly what i originally thought when i started this thread. i guess vdh being so expensive in the us is like the hd800 or ps1000 being so expensive in the uk. different markets demand different prices for different items.

i am sorry for the confusion.
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