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post #16 of 44
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and for the record i didnt ignore anyones advice in here, i havent seen one other amp recommendation, all i heard was listen before i buy something, which isnt the easiest thing to do necessarily because these amps arent sold in a best buy or some other equivalent. yes if i get a chance to go to the nyc meet ill obviously go considering its a block away from my house. but being away for college i dont know if ill get that chance.

so please by all means give me more amp suggestions, so i just get confused on what to buy even more. or actually heres the list i started with

ibasso t3
little dot mk 1+
total airhead
headsix
p51 mustang
mini3
pav2v

if your advice is to listen before i buy im not ignoring you ,its just more difficult for me to do because ive never seen any meets where i go to school ( buffalo ny), so going into a purchases blind is most likely my only option.
post #17 of 44
Lots of people have things positive and negative to say about the headsix, and the various rsa amps. It's really better to listen yourself rather than take things based on reviews here, if you have the opportunity. Sometimes going against the crowd can give great results.
post #18 of 44
I wasn't putting you down, just suggesting that if at all possible it would be good to go to the meet. I don't consider myself an expert by any means, and don't have a ton of disposable income. That's why I always looked around for competitive amps with less of a following and used my ears to guide me. After trying several portable amps (and also reading Headphone Addict's and others' reviews) I decided on the Arrow. I don't know if Headphoneaddict has reviewed it yet but he has had good things to say about other "Headphonia" (Headstage) gear in the past. Sorry if I offended, it was not my intent.

Here's a link to some impressions that might help.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f105/w...-arrow-461344/
post #19 of 44
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Originally Posted by cck5 View Post
RSA tomahawk VS. Corda headsix

paired with ipod-lod and Grado225I, i listen to mainly rock music.

which is gonna give me the best sound.??

help me guys...

...i was told the headsix is an amazing amp and for the money cant be beaten...i just dont want a diy amp, i want something of high quality not diy...i dont see any1 complaining about RSA amps, because they are exceptional in many peoples eyes, as well as corda amps. why not go with something thats well liked by many?

...so please by all means give me more amp suggestions...heres the list i started with

ibasso t3
little dot mk 1+
total airhead
headsix
p51 mustang
mini3
pav2v

...if your advice is to listen before i buy im not ignoring you ,its just more difficult for me to do because ive never seen any meets where i go to school ( buffalo ny), so going into a purchases blind is most likely my only option
1. Agreed both are impressive portable amps and likely in your price range, unlike some of the slightly better ones you've also had on your list like the P51.

2. Agree both manufacturuers do a very good and relaible job and provide effective back up service. Thoroughly understand your POV on that aspect of the purchase.

3. Understand you've made a decision on non-DIY and can agree to a degree as I had two Mini3s side-by-side and they weren't identicle in SQ because of different parts used (notably the caps). That said, though, I will concur with others that if you get one built well you might gain better SQ.

4. I know you say not to suggest 'try before you buy' but please consider my POV on that as well. It's simply this - ask. Ask in the FS Forums with a WTT - Want To Try - thread. No loss if you don't get a response but you might also find someone close (or even distant) who is willing to loan you the amp for as little as the cost of return postage. I personally loaned my Tomahawk to three different HeadFi-ers when I had it and two of them ended up buying their own after having the experience - they found it worked with their synergy of source and headphones, whereas it didn't do it for the other HeadFi-er. So simply ask - nothing to lose, plenty to potentially gain, particularly if the loaning member is thinking of selling the said amp in any case: could work out well for both of you.

5. O.K., it's been a while since I compared the RSA Tomahawk VS. Corda Headsix in my own experimentation of portable amps and please note all of this is with my own source (iRiver H140)/cable (FallenAngel double parallel flat braid of 8 24AWG individual silver wires in Teflon tubing; Termination Neutrik NYS231BG gold plated connectors)/IEMs (Livewires T1 - Standard cable and Westone UM2) at the time. All my personal opinion and YMMV.

I had a loan of a Meier Headsix for a brief time. Apart from aforementioned build quality I found it was quiet (no excessive hiss) and performed well across the range of music I use to test with. For me its weakest area was bass response, but that gave it a good synergy with the UM2s (which is why testing with your own equipment could be important, particularly listening to Rock). It excelled at bright detail and placement of instruments in the soundstage. Very accurate reproduction.

I had the Tomahawk for a longer period of time and it was well burned in (note this does make a difference IMHO). I got it because of all the 'can't decide between Hornet M and Tomahawk' threads in early 2007. So I find I really do talk Toma in comparison with the Hornet M, but not just because of those early threads but also because they are natural comparitors. Roughly the same sound signature attempt, but not as well implemented in the Toma as in the Hornet M IMHO. The Hornet M has slightly better decay, atmospherics, space around the instruments. A little bit more than slightly more prominent midrange/vocals. Just that little bit more natural in intonation. They are both exceptional amplifiers for portable audio. Hornet M has everything more upfront in the mix - clearer differentiation with instrument placement. To me the Toma's bass was a hint drier than the Hornet M. In fact everything is just a 'touch' not quite as full/rich/detailed/there.

It's an exceptional sound output for such a small amp, but I'd take the Hornet M over the Toma, and probably over the Headsix.

I love the Headsix for its detail and instrument placement. I love the Toma for it's punchy RSA bass and upfront vocals. I think the Hornet M, although slightly larger than the Toma and lacking the infinite time between recharges that the Toma achieves, is the one I would recommend to you if you can get one in your budget.

I hope all of the above points help you. Good luck in finding the amp that's best for you.
post #20 of 44
Forgot to add that Nuwidol had both amps in 2008 and might be able to give you a POV on which was better.

Also this thread might be of interest - http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/hea...owdown-283143/
post #21 of 44
Thread Starter 
The problem with wrt add is that I've also not purchased an LOD yet.and I'll have to get one
post #22 of 44
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wrt add
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Oh, WTT (want to try)
post #23 of 44
Portable amp roundup from skylab puts both amps at a #7 ranking , i have never listened to the tomahawk so i cant comment on that but the Headsix is a sweet amp. If you get sometime try to take a look at the amp roundup reviews and rankings it helped me out a lot.that's why i purchased a p-51 mustang and imo i cant imagine another portable amp being a significant upgrade. cheers
post #24 of 44
Reviews are wonderful and all that, but I also offer an alternative suggestion. Do some searches/browsing and find posters with similar musical tastes and whose impressions of the way things sound are consistent with your own. Then look at what those members have in their rigs. I place more importance on the gear people keep than the new gear that gets reviewed.
post #25 of 44
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Originally Posted by The Monkey View Post
Reviews are wonderful and all that, but I also offer an alternative suggestion. Do some searches/browsing and find posters with similar musical tastes and whose impressions of the way things sound are consistent with your own. Then look at what those members have in their rigs.
Very good point. It might take some time, and involve some more PMing for you, but it does help get you to the best choice for you, your ears and your musical preferences.
post #26 of 44
@ OP - I would suggest you stay away from the NY meet. Or you might end up get a Triad Lisa III instead of a $200 amp !!!

Anyways back to topic I would say get neither amp. Get an amp that allows you to tweak the sound a bit so you can synergize with each headphone/earphone you have.

I have the Ibasso P3+ and I can easily recommend this amp. It already comes with different buffers/opamps etc to tweak the sound as much as you want.

The headstage arrow is also another amp that can be tweaked by rolling the OPAMPs. So I suggest you get an amp which allows you to tweak the sound.
post #27 of 44
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Originally Posted by brendon View Post
...Get an amp that allows you to tweak the sound a bit so you can synergize with each headphone/earphone you have...with different buffers/opamps etc to tweak the sound as much as you want.
There is much merit in this approach too. I've retained a Xin Supermini IV for its enormous configurability options and played with the iBasso D1 and D10 in the same way (have heard the P3+ but not played with various opamps within it).

The three points I'd add from my experiences in this area though are:
1. Many end up discovering or purchasing a 'topkit' of opamps for their amp that seems to synergise with a wide range of headphones for them - so there can be an additional cost to get the best out of the amp. (I haven't seen too many opamp rolling to suit each of their headphones like one might tube roll a full size amp for particular headphones).

2. If you do decide to really try a range of opamp options then be prepared to buy a number of opamps in addition to the ones provided - this is why most rely on the advice of those who do the work and discover the 'topkit' (saves time?).

3. Some would argue that the designer of an amp such as the Toma or Headsix has already done the opamp rolling job to discover the best 'topkit' for their amp design. Having tried both opamp-rolling portable amps and those that are purpose built with opamps already decided on I've generally gone with the latter designs for better sound quality, particularly for the price (because of no further opamp costs). For instance, although the Supermini IV can be tailored in various ways I prefer the Supermicro IV's SQ overall with my IEMs. Similarly the D10 topkit I last had installed had great SQ but too much background hiss for my liking - in the end I'm getting it tailored with new caps and a quite unique set of opamps so it'll end up being a dedicated design in the end in any case. All my personal experience and YMMV - but letting you know so you are informed.
post #28 of 44
i've never listened to tomahawk but i did have a headsix for a long time.
i used it with big cans like hd580,hd600,hd650, dt990 250hom, sr325i and ms2i, and i really liked this amp.
i sold it only because the plastic jacks were not perfect. a lot of 1/8" plugs would pop out even with a slight force.
SQ wise, it was GREAT.
post #29 of 44
Thread Starter 
lol i guess im puttin off an amp for a while. ill just buy a nice LOD for now. so when i finally get a chance to get an amp, ill be ready.
post #30 of 44
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Originally Posted by cck5 View Post
lol i guess im puttin off an amp for a while. ill just buy a nice LOD for now. so when i finally get a chance to get an amp, ill be ready.
I have found a little patience goes a long way towards finding the best gear for a good price. Good luck!
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