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post #1 of 13
2/2/10 at 9:23pm
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What are the best Rips?

Flac?
Vinyl?
SACD?

am I missing anything?
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post #2 of 13
2/2/10 at 9:28pm
i'd say a DVD-Audio rip in a lossless format
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post #3 of 13
2/2/10 at 10:46pm
If you have a nice analog rig you can get some amazing rips using vinyl and this Korg Stereo Recorder | Mobile Recorder | DSD | Korg MR-1000 DSD2 (1-bit/5.6 MHz) masters that you can save down to 24 Bit/192KHz or many other formats. But this is an extreme committment to high quality rips. People have said that the result of some of these vinyl rips equal or exceed DVD-A and SACD (Also a DSD format but V1 not the newer double data rate of V2).
I have not heard the resultant files yet as I have an invite to hear them but have not connected yet. I do however have a nice sounding analog setup with ProJect/Sumiko/Rotel and if I like the result of the test vinyl that I am supposed to hear soon, I will invest in the Korg myself as I am not pleased with the offerings in SACD/DVD-A and there is a heck of a lot more vinyl out there just waiting to be ripped.
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post #4 of 13
2/3/10 at 3:02am
why rip to DSD then convert to PCM when you can just rip to PCM?
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post #5 of 13
2/3/10 at 3:38am
In terms of the amount of information required to reconstruct a waveform acoustically transparent to the studio material, a 44.1 flac rip will do. Anything more is simply icing on the cake.

Vinyl rips are far from a sure thing when it comes to quality.
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post #6 of 13
2/3/10 at 8:06am
Some of the vinyl rips i have made are very good even compared to CD versions... if the disc is in good condition, and they were done with modest A\D equipment.

Recently i've bought the 35th anniversary edition of Brain Salad Surgery, it's a good mastering of supposedly "audiophile quality", it comes on both redbook and SACD...but my vinyl rip sounds on par if not better.
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post #7 of 13
2/3/10 at 8:39am
I say vinyl to high resolution lossless (FLAC, ALAC, WavPack, ..).
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post #8 of 13
2/3/10 at 10:18am
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Originally Posted by necropimp View Post
why rip to DSD then convert to PCM when you can just rip to PCM?
Some people feel that DSD offers better sound than PCM due to the higher resolution.

Hi-Rez or CD-Rez...it's all in the mastering.
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post #9 of 13
2/3/10 at 10:24am
Well I don't know much about the technical process, but I have really been enjoying some of the vinyl rips I've heard. I just like the sound of a good vinyl rip.
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post #10 of 13
2/3/10 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by LFF View Post
Some people feel that DSD offers better sound than PCM due to the higher resolution.

Hi-Rez or CD-Rez...it's all in the mastering.
what higher resolution? most of that increased samplerate is used for oversampling and DSD is considered inferior by many because it doesn't maintain the same dynamic range across the entire frequency range (which once you account for oversampling is about the same as 192KHz)

but like i said since we are talking about rips on a computer and last i checked computer listening is done in PCM (lossless, lossy... it all decodes to PCM) not DSD so why would you bother using a DSD device to record the vinyl rip if you're just going to convert to PCM when you can use one of MANY high quality PCM devices (which you can probably find cheaper than that korg unit) and skip the DSD step?

simple common sense
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post #11 of 13
2/3/10 at 3:43pm
Hydrogen Audio - Vinyl Myths
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post #12 of 13
2/3/10 at 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by necropimp View Post
what higher resolution? most of that increased samplerate is used for oversampling and DSD is considered inferior by many because it doesn't maintain the same dynamic range across the entire frequency range (which once you account for oversampling is about the same as 192KHz)

but like i said since we are talking about rips on a computer and last i checked computer listening is done in PCM (lossless, lossy... it all decodes to PCM) not DSD so why would you bother using a DSD device to record the vinyl rip if you're just going to convert to PCM when you can use one of MANY high quality PCM devices (which you can probably find cheaper than that korg unit) and skip the DSD step?

simple common sense
I agree with you. I was just offering up a common reason as to why people record in DSD.
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post #13 of 13
2/4/10 at 4:54am
FLAC level 8 works for me.
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