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post #16 of 25
Denons are very strong with any music that uses some form of electronic sound, however Grados still shine above them for rock and metal.
post #17 of 25
Alexander MS1 lol
post #18 of 25
Lol at this discussion of MS1. Alessandro MS1 has the Grado SR-125 driver but is a tad 'recessed' and a lot cheaper than the SR-125 too. The MS1i is the improved version of MS1 which has an improved driver. When somebody says MS1(i), they are saying get a MS1 OR MS1i.
post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 
Well, it's not like my MS-1s are going anywhere, so I think that the D2000 are a good choice for a new all-around headphone, and I can always go back if I'm missing anything in metal or rock. Can anyone comment on the D2000 performance with doom metal specifically? I know they're bassy, but the consensus seems to be that they're more geared towards electronic music.
post #20 of 25
GET GRADOS TRUST ME.
post #21 of 25
I pretty much had to make the same decision as you two months ago. I listen to everything, and i have yet to listen to anything on my D2000's where i thought, "ok there weak for this kind of thing". Just let them burn in, they open up a lot.
post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by Sabrage View Post
Well, it's not like my MS-1s are going anywhere, so I think that the D2000 are a good choice for a new all-around headphone, and I can always go back if I'm missing anything in metal or rock. Can anyone comment on the D2000 performance with doom metal specifically? I know they're bassy, but the consensus seems to be that they're more geared towards electronic music.
The only doom metal I have is Sleep. The D2000 does Sleep very very well. It's like wow!, this headphone was made for this.

You will find some hard rock, metal, and heavy metal that won't sound right on the D2000. At least I don't think it sounds right. It's mostly recording dependent. If the engineer puts a vocal or guitar squeezed right in the exact frequency range that the D2000 is most recessed then that vocal or guitar will just get lost or sound very distant (like too far from the mic or standing completely off the back of the stage).

It all depends and in some ways depends on your particular sonic preferences. For example I think that Helloween suffers a bit on the D2000 with the D2000 taking away drive from the guitars due to the recessed frequencies and general sound space characteristics of the D2000. But others will listen to the same and find it just fine or even excellent.

I'm in the boat of thinking about getting a Grado 325is to compliment my D2000. I already have an SR60 but SR60 just gets outclassed by my D2000 and HD600 so I'm looking a bit higher in the Grado line.

As long as you have your MS1 to fall back to if the D2000 doesn't rock it for a particular album or band then all is good. The D2000 will compliment and offer something different.

I generally feel the D2000 does better with jam rock and classic rock than the hard rock and heavy metal (old school heavy metal, I don't have much new school metal). But again a lot of that is personal preference.

And if you're willing to EQ and have a graphic EQ with fine enough divisions (a 6 band EQ won't do it) or a parametric EQ you can fix some of the recessed nature of the D2000 and make it sound more "proper" with music that I don't think it sounds "proper" with.
post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks, all my doubts have been quelled. I like my metal heavy and a lot of that really shines through on the low end in my experience so you guys have really quelled any doubts that I had. Thanks a lot! now to play the waiting game until these babies to go on sale again...

And as much as I love my alessandros, I just don't think that Grados are comfortable enough to warrant purchasing another pair.
post #24 of 25
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And as much as I love my alessandros, I just don't think that Grados are comfortable enough to warrant purchasing another pair.
Yeah, it's the comfort thing with the Grados that is holding me back. I almost bought the 325 about 10 years ago but the comfort issue made me not get them. The extra weight of the metal 325 compared to the plastic SR60-SR225 makes a difference. I owned the SR225 for a short time but gave them to my brother. Even with comfy pads on my SR60 I can't listen to two albums in a row without noticing and getting distracted by ear discomfort.

But I love that Grado sound. I like to listen to blues rock and also acoustic guitar and similar acoustic. The Grado sound just owns that kind of music and I haven't found anything yet that does that music so well. If I could find a comfortable around the ear style headphone that sounds as good as the Grado I'd get them. Still looking...

The D2000 are a mixed bag with acoustic guitar. They have a nice resonance that mates well with the acoustic guitar. But the physically recessed frequency response in the upper mids changes the timbre of guitar and similar instruments. It can be fixed a little with EQ but not completely and not in a way that is transparent to the "Denon" sound. Maybe the MarkL wood cups would make a difference? Hmmm...
post #25 of 25
Thread Starter 
One final post: I auditioned the D5000 at a local audio store (more for comfort than for anything else) and to my unrefined ear they looked and felt fantastic. The only Denon phones I've had extensive ears-on time with is the C551, can anyone compare the sound signature of the C551 to that of the D2000? And I've read many times that the D2000 is "picky" about amps, what would be a good portable amp that ISN'T the Nuforce Icon Mobile? (I want an on/off switch)
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