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post #91 of 1464
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Originally Posted by bcwang View Post
Tell me about it, my friend was afraid to put it at max and connect it to his expensive equipment because he was afraid of damaging his pre-amp. If the volume control didn't affect the lineout he would have connected it up just fine. Does max give standard line out 2V max? Anyone know?
Yes.

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post #92 of 1464
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post
So you mean a lineout?
Yes. For example, it looks like the µDAC takes its output directly from the DAC (integrated ground-centered 2Vrms driver) connected to the RCA's via a potentiometer to control its output. Actually, it's a very direct connection. Fundamentally, all that's in the path is the potentiometer. Maxing the volume control effectively eliminates the POT from the circuit. I think that's part of the reason the µDAC is such an overachiever.
post #93 of 1464
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Originally Posted by bcwang View Post
Tell me about it, my friend was afraid to put it at max and connect it to his expensive equipment because he was afraid of damaging his pre-amp. If the volume control didn't affect the lineout he would have connected it up just fine. Does max give standard line out 2V max? Anyone know?

Oh the other hand, having a variable line-out allows the udac and hdp to be used as a pre-amp and hook up directly to a power amp. That bypasses another set of cables and a box where signal quality loss could occur, so this seems like a very good use for a variable line-out. Of course the balance of the volume control has to be very well matched at low levels if that's all it takes to drive the amp at listening volume.
Per the ESS site (see ESS Products - DAC), the ES9022 has an integrated 2Vrms driver, which is standard line out. However, it seems like my DNA Sonett is sensitive to input, so I rarely run the µDAC or my Pico at max volume.
post #94 of 1464
I noticed the shipping date is now moved from Feb 10th to Feb 12th, just a heads up. Still no pictures however for those are are curious.
post #95 of 1464
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I noticed the shipping date is now moved from Feb 10th to Feb 12th, just a heads up. Still no pictures however for those are are curious.
They been bumping the release date since last year, and every time for the "sake for perfection".
post #96 of 1464
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They been bumping the release date since last year, and every time for the "sake for perfection".
What was the initial announced release date? They must be getting close since a Canadian reseller has it listed on their site.
post #97 of 1464
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Originally Posted by bcwang View Post
Larry,

Hopefully with your suggestions this thing will ship perfect. Meaning, the amp can drive high impedance cans like the HD650 and low sensitivity cans like the K701 as good as the best amps out there. While still having zero hiss with the most sensitive IEMs and having balanced channel volume driving them at low listening volumes. It's a lot to ask for but nuforce claims amazing performance from the HDP.

And if the DAC section is as good as their CDP-8 for 44.1_16, and beat things 10x the price...this thing could really be a winner. Of course we'll have to see.

One thing that maybe you could answer now as it probably won't change. In your testing, did you feel there was any quality difference between using usb, toslink, or coaxial digital?
I have not finished evaluating it, but the 24/96 USB is probably up to the quality of the optical at 24/96 from Macbook, from the limited testing I have done so far. And it does a great job with 16/44.1 files too.

They finalized and overnighted the production version to me today (2/9), but it was late enough that I don't know if I'll have it Wednesday or Thursday. I'll send back the burned-in prototype overnight to be modded to final version, and that will be sent back to me for the review. In the meantime I will be testing out the production model as soon as it arrives, with them expecting to be ready to ship around Friday.

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Originally Posted by Rdr. Seraphim View Post
Per the ESS site (see ESS Products - DAC), the ES9022 has an integrated 2Vrms driver, which is standard line out. However, it seems like my DNA Sonett is sensitive to input, so I rarely run the µDAC or my Pico at max volume.
Just be careful and don't assume the HDP also uses an ESS SABRE DAC like the uDAC.

NOW FOR NEW PHOTOS!

Front - volume knob top, selector for USB, Digital, or Analog. USB selects the 24/96 USB input. Digital will select the RCA coax as default unless a 3.5mm optical cable is plugged in then that over-rides the RCA coax. Analog will select the RCA input as default unless a 3.5mm analog connector is plugged in, then it will use that. These were choices made in order to keep costs down. I am using the USB for Macbook, Coax for Marantz CD5001, and an iMod Vcap dock into the RCA analog inputs.

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post #98 of 1464
Can you provide a pic of the power supply? I'm considering this for a transportable setup and pics of the power supply for size reference would be appreciated. Thanks!
post #99 of 1464
Thanks Larry - I suspected that it would be along the same lines as the original Icon in design terms. I found the Icon design more attractive in the flesh when I encountered one in Singapore - the thing looks huge in photos !
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Originally Posted by CountChoculaBot View Post
Can you provide a pic of the power supply? I'm considering this for a transportable setup and pics of the power supply for size reference would be appreciated. Thanks!
I don't have a photo, but it's a small power brick that's about 4" x 2" x 1.5" and a IEC cable connector to use any 3-prong power cord.
post #101 of 1464
Can you upload a picture of the HDP, the uDac, and a quarter please?

Thanks you!
post #102 of 1464
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
Just be careful and don't assume the HDP also uses an ESS SABRE DAC like the uDAC.
Nah, no assumption of that kind at all. In fact Jason mentioned it was different in an earlier thread anyways. My comment had to do with line out, that it would be nice if it had a standard, fixed line out, bypassing the attenuator. I'm guessing that will not be the case. I really don't need another amplifier and it would be nice if it was configurable for a DAC only option.

(And Jason has been avoiding the DAC-9 questions some of us have posted )
post #103 of 1464
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post

I find it strange how the R is on the left side and L is on the right side for the RCA inputs and outputs. I've been looking for a dac/amp combo these days, and I just might get this to replace my current source and amp.
post #104 of 1464
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Originally Posted by kite7 View Post
I find it strange how the R is on the left side and L is on the right side for the RCA inputs and outputs.
If you were to hook it up with the back panel facing forward, that would indeed be strange, but since the back panel is intended to be in back, facing away from you, it's just right.

But you've probably figured that out by yourself already.
post #105 of 1464
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Just be careful and don't assume the HDP also uses an ESS SABRE DAC like the uDAC.
So are you going to tell us what dac it uses or does one of us have to rip it open and try and figure it out ourselves?
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