Originally Posted by suseeb
Hello slim.a, last week I received my BNC Oyaide BD-510 and connected to my Paradisea DAC,
sorry slim.a, in the sound there was no dynamics, energy, enthusiasm. It was very smooth n soft,
there was no attack. Then I decided to add an BNC-RCA adapter and pluged in the cable to RCA
input. Yes, now I fell the fullness by get back all the missed things, now the sound is as that what
should be.. I think the cable should be broken in at least 100hrs. So, the BNC connection not
suitable for every system & every one's taste. Please tell me that when we add an adapter to BNC,
is there any change in the impedance causing distortion? It is said that the outer body mass of the
(outer shell)RCA connecter should be less like in the Eichmann's connecter. Is it correct?
Has anyone bothered to really read the whole review?
Below are a few extracts:
- An analog sounding digital cable
- Timbre - The sound of analog
- Highs: When I first listened to the Oyaide, I thought for a moment that it had a slightly rolled off high register. However, when I played tracks that contain instruments with a lot of upper harmonics content (violins, …), I realized that it actually conveyed more information on top, and instead it left aside the grunge and metallic edge that even so called “high-end” cables exhibit.
- The positive outcome of this bass presence and richness is that I never feel the lack of a subwoofer when listening through headphones. There is enough weight to the representation that my brain doesn’t interpret anything as being missing.
- To overcome this, some recordings and some audio equipment overemphasize the leading edges of the notes to enhance that sense of realism. But too often, the result is a dry, artificial and unnatural sound (to my ears at least). The Stereovox XV2 for instance was fast but artificial sounding.
- Overall the sound could be described as effortless resolution. It is not an increase in resolution for the sake of the resolution and transparency;
- This digital cable won’t magically transform a poorly designed DAC into a top-tier one. However, if you are happy with the performance of your DAC and have noticed that its performance is affected by the transport and digital cables, then the Oyaide could probably add something to the mix.
- Overall, the Oyaide is a beautifully built digital cable that brings you closer to the sound of “analog”
Maybe that it was unclear from reading the whole review, but If people are looking for sharp transients, a leaner tonal balance (such as the Stereovox XV2), the Oyaide IS NOT for you.
In no place in my review, it was implied that the Oyaide should be paired with a DAC such as the Paradisea (NOS + Tubed output). There is something called system synergy. And pairing an "analog"/smooth sounding cable with an already smooth sounding DAC is far from ideal.
Reviews should be read in perspective of what the reader has in his system. And only ONE change should be done at the time.
Shahrose has been dissatisfied about his Oyaide cable and whining about it repeatedly. He also bought many items after my reviews; the Artisan Ultimate Silver Dream, Jkeny's Hiface, Wireworld USB cable... Why does comment repeatedly only about his "negative" experience.
I have been open minded so far about Shahrose comments but I should point the following:
- Shahrose had ZERO experience with high performing digital cables prior to trying the Oyaide
- The Belden digital cable cannot even start to compare to something like the Oyaide/Stereovox XV2 in the context of a true high resolution system: if you don't hear the difference in low level details and tonal accuracty, your system is no truly high rez, regardless of how much you spent on it (except if your DAC is totally immune to jitter, which would negate the differences between digital cables anyway).
- Shahrose is now recommending to people a magical cable from downsize that is supposed much better than the Belden and the Oyaide (like if the 2 were performing at the same level). Anyone who has the slightest knowledge about digital audio would understand that it is essential to have a 75ohms compliant cable with low dielectric constant. A DIY cable might sound good on a few systems but cannot be recommended in good conscience to a lot of people. Even properly built digital coaxial cables (Stereovox, Oyaide, Sobek) don't guarantee that you will like what you hear. Getting a DIY cable is a much much bigger risk than getting one of the properly built digital cables.
Of course, one has to have some background and understand the theory before starting recommending stuff to people to minimize (but obviously not negate) the risks. When testing a digital cable, as good as it is, on a DAC that uses CS8416 digital receivers or similar (Y2 DAC, Paradisea...) One has to understand that such chips already have 200ps of intrinsic jitter (vs. 50ps for the DIR9001 for instance) which imply that by using a "transparent" cable they are actually listening to the digital receiver. Using a sharper cable (such as the Stereovox XV2) yields better subjective results on those occasions.
I personally have had the chance to compare both the CS8416 digital receiver and the DIR9001 digital receiver on the same DAC, and the results were astonishing: with everything else kept equal, the CS8416 sounded warm, slow and fuzzy (with no attack) while the lower jitter DIR9001 sounded tight, accurate and articulate.
By just replacing the DIR9001 by the CS8416 on my reference DAC for the testing and keeping everything else constant, I would have written a totally different description.
So should the reviewer try every other possibility out there or should the critical reader apply some logic before
So in order to minimize the risks, one has to understand the equipment they have and what kind of cable they are looking for. What is neutral in a neutral
For those who are not familiar with my reviews, go ahead and read my other reviews here on head-fi. There are countless people agreeing with my findings regarding DACs, USB transports, headamps and cables. There will never be 100% accuracy and there will never be 100% agreement about something about this hobby of ours.
I apologize in advance for the tone of this post, but there are times when reading too much is too much. Shahrose's bashing about the Oyaide is getting tiring.
This is going to be my last post here on the Oyaide thread as I have better things to do.
Edit: I deleted my review and I will let Shahrose write a full review about whatever he thinks is worth recommending.
Edited by slim.a - 10/18/10 at 4:43pm