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post #121 of 379
Not one of the drooling fanboys remembers the Apple Newton - not one. Apple do marketing a whole lot better now, but there is irony here aplenty.
post #122 of 379
The newton was pretty good, but it got its biggest marketing push from Stephen Segall - not a good sign. Pretty sure that I am part of the marketing bracket for the iPad. didn't want a netbook, but need something smaller, portable and 100% SSD. The nice screen is quite a surprise, though I doubt I'll be doing Photoshop and Illustrator on this badboy.

Typing speed test: laptop, vs Newton, vs handwriting, vs palm, vs graffiti, vs iPhone
post #123 of 379
The Newton is the iPad's great grandfather. They learned from it and have pretty much remade it. Without the Newton, there probably wouldn't have been an iPhone or iTouch. There is no success without failure first.
post #124 of 379
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post
The newton was pretty good, but it got its biggest marketing push from Stephen Segall - not a good sign. Pretty sure that I am part of the marketing bracket for the iPad. didn't want a netbook, but need something smaller, portable and 100% SSD. The nice screen is quite a surprise, though I doubt I'll be doing Photoshop and Illustrator on this badboy.

Typing speed test: laptop, vs Newton, vs handwriting, vs palm, vs graffiti, vs iPhone
i read the article... although the typing speed on the iphone is fairly fast, my hands get fatigued VERY soon due to the small size and the way I have to hold a grip while I type. it's a great hassle -.-
post #125 of 379


this is crazy

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Originally Posted by ShootingStars View Post
i read the article... although the typing speed on the iphone is fairly fast, my hands get fatigued VERY soon due to the small size and the way I have to hold a grip while I type. it's a great hassle -.-
time for you to get iPad just to use the "bigger" onscreen keyboard?
post #126 of 379
I agree, though I am now on chapter three of a little something something and most of it is done on my iPod touch... not optimal, but overall, I am used to it now. I have quick office for word processing and can use the full keyboard which I find to be pretty quick.

The iPad could NOT be used on the train - I simply cannot imagine doing work from it there!
post #127 of 379
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I agree, though I am now on chapter three of a little something something and most of it is done on my iPod touch... not optimal, but overall, I am used to it now. I have quick office for word processing and can use the full keyboard which I find to be pretty quick.

The iPad could NOT be used on the train - I simply cannot imagine doing work from it there!
Actually it looks like it would be okay to use on the go, if you went with that case accessory that is going along with it. You could prop it up on your lap.

Review: Apple iPad Case | iLounge

Though, I'd agree it would be difficult to use standing up on a crowded train. (I have no idea what that's like in Korea )

*EDIT: Oh, it looks like that link doesn't show you the case in it's slanted position. Here's what I'm talking about in the bottom right corner. I think this could work on a lap.*

http://images.apple.com/ipad/design/...s_20100127.jpg
post #128 of 379
Wow- 9 page reply to this new netbook/e-reader!
Makes sense! It is apple, like Bose, they really know how to market market market!
Good for them! Even tho the economy is not the greatest, there are lots of ppl out there to spend $$ move the economy - buying useless items. But really, it isn't that bad- 400-800$ is not going to break the bank.
And is it useful? Yes
Is it a total ripoff? No
Overpriced? Yes - but not as bad as Bose- for it really does have some real r&d into the art of "userfriendliness" and technologies that really make a difference (similar to the iPhone)...

I'd like to compare to other companies- ie Bose (don't mean to pick on them... But they too are masters of the american marketing machine) ... Bose has been able to market thier marginal products for years- and for years-they remain one of the top grossing companies in their sector-!! Let's think:

both companies charge premium for the name: Bose is worse (at least apple has many respectable products and also have amazing/state of the art mac-pro-towers*)...
Both companies overcharge- over what the market rate for similar products: whose worse?? Bose or apple??? I'd say apple is approx 30%-100% more expensive than a dell or hp, for same specs. But Bose???- the lifestyle48 system retails for about $4000usd for that price, what u get is about $1000 (if that) worth of equipment. Bose is worse.

All I'm saying is that while apple is bad: with most of their products being underperforming (except the iPhone)... And overpriced---- there are soooo many more culprits!
Luckily, the product in question: maxiPad (LOL) performance is slot more measurable/comparable vs sound reproduction... But of course, we know better: being in this type of forum
post #129 of 379
One thing I certainly prefer with a laptop/netbook when slobbing on the couch is that I can sit the thing on my lap with the screen at the right angle and just mouse away and type on a keyboard with both hands without putting it down or propping it to type. Having to hold something that weighs over a pound can get tiresome real fast, especially when you go one handed to gesture and point.

The OS is limited in scope. The apps for it are rudimentary. Single tasking, no USB mini, 4/3 ratio, non upgradable, limited expandibility and so-on as others have said. It seems to be a device looking for a purpose despite what his Jobness says. Maybe it'll find one, maybe not. As it stands it may appeal to the casual non-computer types for surfing/mail and gadget geeks. For real-world usage, I don't see where it's supposed to fit. My $400 laptop is far more capable in every way and my ipod touch seems to have just about everything the pad has in a smaller package. Between those two I see no particular gap the pad can fill.

Having watched the presentations, read the reviews etc. I think the (maybe) upcoming MS Courier will be a far more capable and useful device, especially if you're into creation rather than just consumption. From what I've seen so far, the pad is just another poorly implemented and very limited tablet. Even a stylus would make it a lot more functional for note-taking/input, one of the primary usages for a tablet. Fingers are good for touchscreen navigation, clicking and typing but not much else. Finger painting and scribbling just doesn't work that well.

Hopefully at some stage they'll add multitasking and more complex apps. For now, there seems very little to commend it and no reason, toy lust aside, to buy it.
post #130 of 379
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So no USB port or SD card slot, but Apple is offering a camera (usb) adapter, as well as an SD card adapter
Oh hell yes! Now I can give Apple a ludicrous sum of money for a nicely-designed brick and then give them even more money for adapters that I can only use one of at a time, instead of just having them on the device to begin with. REVOLUTIONARY!

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I think that one of the most significant things about the iPad from a technical point of view is the fact that Apple has introduced an entirely new line of CPUs to the world for this thing. The 1GHz Apple A4 processor is a "custom-designed, high-performance, low-power system-on-a-chip", and is not Intel or AMD or Qualcomm (iPhone) or even Motorola (Power PC); this is an in-house proprietary design from Apple's higher intelligence (R&D) department, and it is just the beginning
You really have no clue what you're talking about. Each company does not make their own processor architecture, otherwise there would be about 50 different versions of Windows instead of the already-too-many 5. Qualcomm makes ARM CPUs. AMD and Intel make x86 CPUs. Motorola does not make PPC CPUs (IBM is the only [?] one who does), or CPUs at all for that matter, where the hell did you get that from? They spun their processor division (which made ARM, not PPC, CPUs) off into Freescale which... *drumroll* makes ARM CPUs and System-on-a-chip solutions. Guess what Apple's "A4 custom-designed, high-performance, low-power system-on-a-chip" is? A glorified ARM processor. Not revolutionary, just a lot of marketing crap.
post #131 of 379
Apple Ipad, Have you heard your mighty cousin HTC HD2? Im happy with my HD2 + its a full pledge phone....
post #132 of 379
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Originally Posted by somestranger26 View Post
You really have no clue what you're talking about. Each company does not make their own processor architecture, otherwise there would be about 50 different versions of Windows instead of the already-too-many 5. Qualcomm makes ARM CPUs. AMD and Intel make x86 CPUs. Motorola does not make PPC CPUs (IBM is the only [?] one who does), or CPUs at all for that matter, where the hell did you get that from? They spun their processor division (which made ARM, not PPC, CPUs) off into Freescale which... *drumroll* makes ARM CPUs and System-on-a-chip solutions. Guess what Apple's "A4 custom-designed, high-performance, low-power system-on-a-chip" is? A glorified ARM processor. Not revolutionary, just a lot of marketing crap.
It may not be a completely new architecture, though that is yet to be seen, it may be. It is apples own design. You may not have heard that apple purchased PA Semi, a chip design company, in 2008. The Apple A4 is a product of that purchase. It was designed in house, not by intel, ibm, or qualcomm.
post #133 of 379
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It may not be a completely new architecture, though that is yet to be seen, it may be. It is apples own design. You may not have heard that apple purchased PA Semi, a chip design company, in 2008. The Apple A4 is a product of that purchase. It was designed in house, not by intel, ibm, or qualcomm.
It is not a new architecture. It is ARM plain and simple.

Want to see my proof? It's running iPhone OS.

I am completely aware that Apple purchase PA Semi and never said that the processor was made by Intel, IBM, or Qualcomm. Where are you getting this from?
post #134 of 379
So not all that much use for head-fi duties though.
post #135 of 379
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Originally Posted by somestranger26 View Post
It is not a new architecture. It is ARM plain and simple.

Want to see my proof? It's running iPhone OS.

I am completely aware that Apple purchase PA Semi and never said that the processor was made by Intel, IBM, or Qualcomm. Where are you getting this from?
i never said you said it was made by one of them. and saying its arm plain and simple would be like saying all the processors from AMD and intel ar identical...well, they're all x86,plain and simple. Its just not the case, the processor being used within the iPad could very well be revolutionary in its own right, and still be ARM. As evident by its 10 hour battery life, and that is while watching a movie.
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