HD800 versus D7000 (with poll) - Page 7

actually, it is a word. look it up in the dictionary.


he's a troll because he has a different opinion than you?

you are the troll... clearly regretting the decision to lay down $1400 for a headphone you aren't happy with, nor could afford in the first place.

It's only technically recognized as a word because of the massive number of uneducated fools that insist on still using it.

Think about it. Irregardless is like saying regardless of regardless.

"Used by people who ignorantly mean to say regardless. According to webster, it is a word, but since the prefix "ir" and the suffx "less" both mean "not or with" they cancel each other out, so what you end up with is regard. When you use this to try to say you don't care about something, you end up saying that you do. Of course everyone knows what you mean to say and only a pompous,rude ******* will correct you."

Urban Dictionary: irregardless


You must have me mistaken for someone else. I clearly DO NOT regret purchasing the HD800 in the slightest. It is by far the best dynamic headphone I have heard/owned in and out of production. Check my profile for the list of headphones I have been through. I am most definitely happy with it, ecstatic to be quite honest, and can easily afford it.

How did you come to the conclusion that I don't like the HD800 and couldn't afford it? I don't get it.

"Irregardless" is a distortion of the English language, and not a real word. It shouldn't ever be used.

Calling someone a "troll" because they don't like your own personal favorite headphone isn't much better, though.

Both the D7000 and HD800 are terrific headphones - I fail to see why anyone should be so opposed to this concept. Choice of headphones is a highly personal preference, and is going to vary widely, and there is absolutely no universally right answer for all listeners.

I agree on both. And this although I possibly like the HD 800 as much as subtle himself.
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I completely agree and perhaps I should have been a bit more specific.

I wasn't calling him troll because he likes the D7000 more than the HD800, or because he doesn't like the HD800 at all. That I could care less about. My basis for calling him out as a troll was this statement.

Not only is this complete nonsense, but the vulgar brash instigative manner in which his opinion is presented is clearly characteristic of what constitutes a troll.

My two cents...

I have previously happily owned the D7000s and sold them for the HD800s. Both are amazing headphones in their own right. But both are very different. The HD800s are as neutral as I've heard with unparalleled detail retrieval, sound staging, pure depth and control of bass and clarity. The D7000s are very fun with subwoofer awe inspiring bass, with slightly recessed mids (but still very good) and excellent treble.

So, it depends on what you prefer. I must say, the most impressive first 5 minutes with any headphone that I've ever had was with the HD800. The level of detail and sound stage imaging was just incredible. My wife still comments on how stupid the look on my face was when I had them on my head. But heck, in the end I prefer the T1s to either of these two cans.

To say that one is a crap is a mistake and simply not true. While it may not be your taste (and that's fine), to say that they are bad or a mistake is inaccurate to say the least.

Technically, I think the HD800s have the upper hand, but I can certainly understand why some prefer the D7000's overall presentation.

I think trolling is still something else. Nevertheless, I don't sympathize with somebody with such a vocabulary, the less so if used for a product which I consider a breakthrough in music reproduction. But I simply don't take this kind of statement and the «philosophy» behind it seriously. Expecting maximum (amount of) bass from a large membrane – as main feature of high-quality music reproduction – is clear enough evidence of a clearly different approach. Also clear enough for the people who read this thread. So nothing I'd have to lose sleep about without a counter-argument from my part.
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i just thought about it some more and i really couldn't choose between the D7000 and the HD800 .... it all depends on the music i'm listening too. i've considered selling the edition9's for LA7000's again as for overall comfort the 7000's were much more comfortable. the D7000 is such a fun pair of cans with just the perfect amount of head pounding bass for my heavier bass music. HD800 are my perfect jazz/classical set

like you, this used to be one of my pet peeves as well. I have recently done a complete 360 on this matter, and it no longer bothers me--


Hopefully, you will end up feeling the same way someday! Just don't loose your temper over it.

There, isn't that better. I love the edit button. Its true irregardless is not a word so I had it edited also.

Regardless, I still stand by my assessment that from all the headphones I have heard, the D7000 have the closest signature to the O2's that I have heard - reduce the midbass prominance and further reduce sub bass levels and the signatures are almost the same, albeit the O2's are more transparent - which includes details and other finer points. The same sort of "focused" soundstage as well.

subtle, have you heard the O2's? Read the above carefully - disagree with me again at the cost of your reputation. If you are suggesting that the D7000s are slow because the bass isn't the tightest of all plus the midrange is not the most prominent and the soundstage not the biggest - Then you need to have another listen, that is if you have heard the D7000s at all. Admittedly not as lightning quick as my initial impressions suggested - initial impressions nevertheless (It sounded more SS like with tubes more so because of the exquisitely extended treble and sub-bass synergies than lightning reflexes).

Yes I am guilty of the "new toy" syndrome, hence the "drama queen" mannerism - but sometimes, aren't we all?

Yes I've owned both. The D7000 was the flagship headphone I sold the quickest. I purchased it new and it lasted a mere two weeks.

I'm curious though. What amp were you powering the O2s with when you had them?

like others said,it is a matter of taste. I got the chance to audition the HD800 and I prefer my D5000 over it, not in technical espects,but because of the more preffered sound signature. it is abvious that the HD800 is much more superior to the 5000 in regards to technical aspects,and probably even the D7000.

if someone donates a hd800 to me.
then i will vote

what kind of tubes were you using?
I remember my Cayin being pretty generous on the K240DF with bass, and it was actually as tight on the DF as it was with the K501.
Too bad neither of those headphones actually have any sub-bass haha, and the HD650's I had at the time sounded like ass with the amp.

fascinating

fixed

actually, AD2000 for metal, psytrance and Diana Krall (for some reason),
W5000 for Bjork, Emiliana Torrini , some acoustic and jazz music

When i tried the HD800, it reminded me of a broken version of my jh-13s, a little plasticky sounding, and a grossly exagerated soundstage, with drier bass(though still deep), broken by any measure. Though detail was on par. The D7000's on the other hand, were something different. Not nearly as bass heavy as everyone says they are, i thought they had pretty good clarity, and were pretty neutral. So while not to the the technical level of the hd800's, in the end i think they have a more realistic sound than the 800's did. And like i said previously, when i was listening to the 800's, all i was thinking was how much better my jh-13's were, but with the 7000's they were different enough that i could still enjoy them, they werent trying to be something they arent.

but as alot of people have already mentioned, different people like different things. The HD800's might be the best can ever for jazz and classical. All i listen to is rock and metal, which were not so nice on the hd800's.