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post #1 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:07pm
Thread Starter 
I also replied this in another thread but wanted to share this with all of you.

Some might say burn does affect SQ/frequency response, some say it's a myth. Here is the proof: Headphone Burn-in Test

I asked Dave Rat about those specific headphones in the vid and how much impact burn-in would have on the frequency response. So this is 1 proof burn-in is a myth.

For the people that are positively sure that burn-in is real, show us some proof it isn’t a myth.

There are more vids by him searching for headphones called "The Mighty Headphone Quest" and much more info on the testing on his blog(already 6 parts) found in his profile.
post #2 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:09pm
lies
post #3 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:16pm
facepalm!
post #4 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:22pm
Ha, ha. How much weed did Mr. Rat smoke before going "live?"
post #5 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:23pm
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Ha, ha. How much weed did Mr. Rat smoke before going "live?"
rofl
post #6 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:35pm
Thread Starter 
Sure laugh about it but then show some proof please. By the way I’m not trying to upset people who believe in burn-in.
post #7 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:38pm
post #8 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:40pm
provide some proof about brain burn-in as well!
post #9 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:43pm
A frequency response graph isn't the ultimate measure of how a headphone sounds. You can have two headphones with identical FR graphs that sound completely different. One may be analytical and quick while the other is slow and smooth yet they both have the same FR graph.

A waterfall graph would be more useful than a simple frequency response graph. But even then a waterfall graph is not the ultimate measure for quantifying sound characteristics that may or may not change due to burn-in.
post #10 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:52pm
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post #11 of 118
1/22/10 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by Ham Sandwich View Post
A frequency response graph isn't the ultimate measure of how a headphone sounds. You can have two headphones with identical FR graphs that sound completely different. One may be analytical and quick while the other is slow and smooth yet they both have the same FR graph.
But then you're talking about 2 different headphones right? and not comparing stock and burned in headphones.
post #12 of 118
1/22/10 at 8:00pm
my ears have lied to me all these years , i could swear blind that my gs1k sounded crap for the first 300 hrs i must be mad they must have sounded great all along , i feel so foolish thankyou for showing me the light.
post #13 of 118
1/22/10 at 8:02pm
I have no "proof" but I do know my 780s sounded like clock-radio speakers when I first bought them, and 6 months later they sound pretty darn good.
post #14 of 118
1/22/10 at 8:05pm
While I do hear differences between cables, I've never found a cable to change it's tonal qualities regardless of how many hours are put on it. What usually happens is that your equipment warms up and that's why the sound changes.

Some people even say that you have to let a cable or cord re-burn in after you unplug it for countless hours. I also feel that this is nonsense.

If you guys are claiming to hear differences with your headphones on the same cable over a duration of time, it could be due to the transducer loosening up over time. But I have never heard any headphone which I could conclusively say this is happening to, including the K701/2 (which has more talk of burn-in making a difference than any other headphone) and the HD800.
post #15 of 118
1/22/10 at 8:07pm
I haven't heard burn-in on headphones yet, but even just with the theory of burn-in, frequency response is about the least likely measure of sound quality to change over time with the same headphone. Ham Sandwich has it -- if burn-in is caused by the mechanical parts of a headphone driver loosening up, then the most likely aspect of the sound to change is the timing of the sounds: the attack, the sustain, and so on.
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