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post #16 of 20
1/21/10 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by nealric View Post
I don't know. Remember the Barney "I love you" song being piped into captured war prisoners cells a few years back? Sounded like punnishment to me.
Not a few years back. It's very recent. Guantanamo prisoners were just revealed to have been tortured with all types of music playing 24/7 to break them. And it worked and drove them insane. It was on the news a little while ago. Supposedly, they stopped after it was brought to light since it was inhumane. Apparently music CAN be punishment.

Some of the songs used.
http://www.mahalo.com/guantanamo-torture-playlist
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post #17 of 20
1/21/10 at 11:51pm
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Originally Posted by XaNE View Post
Well since im 16 ill interject. I used to hate classical music because it was shown to me at a young age in school and when ever it was played it reminded me of school. The classical music that was introduced to was on a lo-fi system, which probably turned me off.

When i was 10 or so me and my father used to take trips to a local I-Max and that gave me my first experience of high fidelity sound. This high fidelity sound turned me onto what really was classical music; before it was some lame sounds coming out of a boombox now it was something beautiful and timeless.

I think people around me see this as punishment because it reminds them of a bad experience of music class when they were young. Remember, music is a firm link to memory's. If they don't like it it probably connects them to a bad memory if they do like it, it connects good to a great memory.
Exactly, same thing for me. Used to get dragged along to recitals, abhorred it and ended up ignoring classical as a result, but now I really enjoy Haydn and Vivaldi.
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post #18 of 20
1/22/10 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by MrGreen View Post
Music should definitely become a compulsory subject in some form (because it is a huge part of life and reflected/appreciated in Gardner's theories of intelligence). This isn't the way to do it.
Personally, I'd hope that it remains an option instead of compulsory. I went through compulsory music, and band during elementary school here, and during my 4 years in India, compulsory Western Music (aka Choir), and compulsory Indian Music in school, and as a result, I hated music up until I moved back to the US. Once I came back, and no longer had compulsory music education, I found myself free to listen to what I wanted to and not be required to listen to/perform what was required of me, and I came to develop a much better appreciation of music. I still can't play an instrument to save my life, and I can't sing on key in any way, but I appreciate the music I listen to more.
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post #19 of 20
1/22/10 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by fenixdown110 View Post
Not a few years back. It's very recent. Guantanamo prisoners were just revealed to have been tortured with all types of music playing 24/7 to break them. And it worked and drove them insane. It was on the news a little while ago. Supposedly, they stopped after it was brought to light since it was inhumane. Apparently music CAN be punishment.

Some of the songs used.
Guantanamo Torture Playlist
Exactly…to me, the type of music is irrelevant. The idea of it being employed as a mechanism of punishment and/or torture is abhorrent. Artists think so, too.

LRB · Adam Shatz · Short Cuts
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post #20 of 20
1/25/10 at 9:13pm
Can you imagine detention for head-fiers? Teachers force us to listen to 128k mp3's of poorly recorded music on iBuds, or even worse, on revealing headphones.

But seriously, those kids are being exposed to more musical culture than I ever was in school. Too bad it's at the cost of turning some of them off from classical music forever.
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