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post #481 of 684
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

UK is a rip off....

For example I was just looking at getting some Fidelio X1 to try out....

UK price : £280

Germany price : £190

Given that the UK is low wage high cost it really is a rip of country. I really couldn't imagine moving back there. Well I can, but the thought is so horrible it's best suppressed at the earliest opportunity. I feel for you, I really do. Things here cost around same as the UK but the wage level is significantly higher, plus we can always hop across the border to Germany and grab a bargain.

Ok back on topic. Is the HD800 worth $1400. Yes and no would be my answer, but it depends where you're coming from. I currently use AKG Q701s with a Fiio E17 and quite frankly that combo works really well for my ears. Now having finally heard the HD800, combined with the HDVD 800 a few times, I would definitely say that it is the better headphone in terms of detail retrieval and believable sound staging. Going back to my more modest rig, however, was not the step back that I would have imagined it would be.

Likewise the guy who owned the HD800 rig commented on my rig that yes it wasn't quite up there with his, but also said "bloody hell, this cost 1/8 of the cost of mine and it's 90% of the way there" (actually didn't say that exactly, he said it in German and what I've written is a translation)

The truth is that the HD800 plus HDVD 800 is worth the money for him as its about equal to a weeks pay for him. For me it would be be just shy of 2.5 weeks pay. Easily doable but given the current enjoyment I'm getting from my budget system it wouldn't be worth it.

So is the HD800 worth 1400 bucks. Well the answer is a definite yes, if you have the money to easily afford it plus the associated amp you would need to drive it. If you would have to scrimp and save for it then no it's probably not worth the money as there are alternatives out there that will bring you very close for significantly less expenditure.

As previously said it all depends where you're coming from as to whether the HD800 is worth it.
post #482 of 684
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Originally Posted by Slaphead View Post


Given that the UK is low wage high cost it really is a rip of country. I really couldn't imagine moving back there. Well I can, but the thought is so horrible it's best suppressed at the earliest opportunity. I feel for you, I really do. Things here cost around same as the UK but the wage level is significantly higher, plus we can always hop across the border to Germany and grab a bargain.
 

 

Yes the UK used to be a great country, it has gone so far downhill in the last 20 years that I wonder if it will ever get back up again.


Edited by nicholars - 6/30/13 at 9:36am
post #483 of 684
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Yes the UK used to be a great country, it has gone so far downhill in the last 20 years that I wonder if it will ever get back up again.

I wonder the same thing. Every time I go back there's more dilapidation, boards covering the windows of shops I used to use, and every single one of my friends has a story to recount about their particular burglary - some have more than one story . My mother, who almost disowned me at the time when I said I was moving abroad, now says I did exactly the right thing.

I bailed the UK back in 2006 and took a risk with regards to being able to restart in a country where the local language isn't English. With the help of some very good swiss friends I was able to stay for free and only pay the costs of my language course and day to day stuff. Things worked out very well - I was extremely lucky, and I haven't looked back.
post #484 of 684
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Originally Posted by Slaphead View Post

 
I wonder the same thing. Every time I go back there's more dilapidation, boards covering the windows of shops I used to use, and every single one of my friends has a story to recount about their particular burglary - some have more than one story . My mother, who almost disowned me at the time when I said I was moving abroad, now says I did exactly the right thing.

I bailed the UK back in 2006 and took a risk with regards to being able to restart in a country where the local language isn't English. With the help of some very good swiss friends I was able to stay for free and only pay the costs of my language course and day to day stuff. Things worked out very well - I was extremely lucky, and I haven't looked back.

 

I might do what you did and move to Switzerland as well! Getting pretty tired of the UK and also the weather is ****

 

I would like to move to france, but there is the problem of french people there haha.


Edited by nicholars - 6/30/13 at 10:41am
post #485 of 684
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I might do what you did and move to Switzerland as well! Getting pretty tired of the UK and also the weather is ****

I would like to move to france, but there is the problem of french people there haha.

For gods sake don't move for the weather. It's 9 months of winter and 3 months of rain over here.
post #486 of 684
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

 

No kidding. And it is applied to the selling price upon purchase, so it does not account for the original difference in list prices between countries. Also does not explain why selling price of other headphone brands (except Grado) are pretty much par with the US.

 

Try again.

 

The prices for the HD800 are the same between Canada and the US.

 

http://www.amazon.com/electronics/dp/B001OTZ8DA

http://www.amazon.ca/Sennheiser-HD800-Over-Ear-Circum-Aural-Headphone/dp/B001OTZ8DA

 

So I don't actually need to try at all...

post #487 of 684
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Originally Posted by Eisenhower View Post

 

The prices for the HD800 are the same between Canada and the US.

 

http://www.amazon.com/electronics/dp/B001OTZ8DA

http://www.amazon.ca/Sennheiser-HD800-Over-Ear-Circum-Aural-Headphone/dp/B001OTZ8DA

 

So I don't actually need to try at all...

 

Try reading before replying..

 

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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

I also base my opinion of overpricing on the fact that when the HD800 was introduced, it listed for $1295 in the US and $1795 in Canada, despite the fact that our currencies were pretty much at par. And if you wanted to order one from the US, you were out of luck. No shipping of Sennheiser products to Canada. And I am sure it was the same thing for other countries like Australia.  If that is not gouging or greed, I do not know what is.

post #488 of 684
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

Try reading before replying..

 

 

I read it, then I ignored it because it has no bearing on reality. They cost the same. Your insinuation, that Sennheiser is price fixing, is completely invalid.

 

Here are the official prices from their website:

http://www.sennheiser.ca/live/senn/produit/en/1003

http://en-us.sennheiser.com/dynamic-headphones-high-end-around-ear-hd-800

 

If you actually try reading the title of this thread, you will see that it says "Is the HD800 overpriced?", which is the present tense, opposed to "Was the HD800 overpriced?"

Maybe French is your first language or something???


Edited by Eisenhower - 6/30/13 at 5:14pm
post #489 of 684

Oh look you are being pedantic AGAIN!

post #490 of 684
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Oh look you are being pedantic AGAIN!

 

Do you have anything important to contribute?

The topic is about whether or not the HD800 is overpriced. Looking at some previous list price which no longer exists and making that conclusion is obviously wrong, and it has nothing to do with semantics.

post #491 of 684
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

I also base my opinion of overpricing on the fact that when the HD800 was introduced, it listed for $1295 in the US and $1795 in Canada, despite the fact that our currencies were pretty much at par. And if you wanted to order one from the US, you were out of luck. No shipping of Sennheiser products to Canada. And I am sure it was the same thing for other countries like Australia.  If that is not gouging or greed, I do not know what is.

 

 

I agree with Beagle on this point. More and more Sennheiser is strictly enforcing their prices across the spectrum of the higher end audio. In the end the consumers lose on this. I am still shocked they have kept such a strangle on the HD800 prices.

 

There isn't a need to keep the prices of the HD800, HD650 and HD600 so high. The prices set at that higher price are no longer about recouping the costs of R&D and the cost to make the product. The HD800 isn't full of expensive materials, labor intensive work or parts that require super expensive labor. 

post #492 of 684
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Originally Posted by Eisenhower View Post

 

Do you have anything important to contribute?

The topic is about whether or not the HD800 is overpriced. Looking at some previous list price which no longer exists and making that conclusion is obviously wrong, and it has nothing to do with semantics.

 

I already contributed multiple posts to this thread.

post #493 of 684
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Originally Posted by Eisenhower View Post

 

Do you have anything important to contribute?.

 

Do you?

post #494 of 684
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Originally Posted by Eisenhower View Post

 

If you actually try reading the title of this thread, you will see that it says "Is the HD800 overpriced?", which is the present tense, opposed to "Was the HD800 overpriced?"

Maybe French is your first language or something???

 

OK, it still is overpriced.

 

Got it now?

post #495 of 684
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

OK, it still is overpriced.

 

Got it now?

 

No, because you haven't explained why it is overpriced, other than that you don't like the way it sounds.

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