It's better than the Orpheus, which people readily respect and buy for sometimes ten times the HD800's price.
The HD800 should be priced at $5,000 just to keep the riff raff from buying a pair, listening to them poorly amped, and then giving them a bad rep on head-fi.
You mean anyone who can't afford $5000 are riff-raff?
I put it to you that if they were priced at $5000, they'd sound even better with the very same amps. Aristocracy... hopeless set...