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post #31 of 94
This should be under "Dedicated Source Components" and/or "Summit-Fi", I don't see how it relates to sound science.

I won't ever purchase anything from the mother company Harman. Imo this deserves a lawsuit.
post #32 of 94
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I posted it under member lounge since it was entertaining to read this! it was a misc topic that seemed fitting there. I really wish/want it moved back (please?)
post #33 of 94
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I posted it under member lounge since it was entertaining to read this! it was a misc topic that seemed fitting there. I really wish/want it moved back (please?)
Not sure why it is here either (Unless someone wants to argue adding a panel on a piece of equipment changes the sound )
post #34 of 94
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its here cause someone moved it. I posted it in another forum.

I still maintain, this forum is equivalent to burying an article in the back of a newspaper. I find it very distasteful that my post was moved. I have no idea why unless this subject matter hits too close to home or something, to someone???

who knows.... ;(
post #35 of 94
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its here cause someone moved it. I posted it in another forum.

I still maintain, this forum is equivalent to burying an article in the back of a newspaper. I find it very distasteful that my post was moved. I have no idea why unless this subject matter hits too close to home or something, to someone???

who knows.... ;(
You mentioned Beresford didn't you?

Some well-known manufacturers here upgrade a couple of components or make a few small tweaks in a DIY design and slap a brand on it. Though, Lexicon took it to a new level by throwing the whole thing, chassis and all, into the package.
post #36 of 94
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its here cause someone moved it. I posted it in another forum.

I still maintain, this forum is equivalent to burying an article in the back of a newspaper. I find it very distasteful that my post was moved. I have no idea why unless this subject matter hits too close to home or something, to someone???

who knows.... ;(
Oh, gimme a break. Yes, my actual name is Jude Lexicon, and now you've found me out. Now I know how conspiracy theories start.

Obviously, one of the moderators thought to move it here. I'll review the thread, and if I think it needs to be moved somewhere else, I will.

Since we don't have a "Is It Summit-Fi After All?" sub-forum, I'll look to see whether or not this would be better placed in the forum for dedicated source components.
post #37 of 94
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I posted this in the lounge. that seemed like a reasonable 'misc topics' kind of place. the topic was about a review that exposed a manufacturer from being quite dishonest in what they were doing.

you tell me: you think that should be in 'source components' ? I didn't see the fit with that so I didn't post it there.

it didn't seem to be about 'sound science' since there was no technology being discussed, unless you consider outright fraud to be a technology issue.

it was audio related but not really headphones related; not DIY related; I just didn't find any other place other than 'lounge' to post this. and it did have a humor side to it and, again, lounge seemed the right place for this.
post #38 of 94
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Originally Posted by linuxworks View Post
I posted this in the lounge. that seemed like a reasonable 'misc topics' kind of place. the topic was about a review that exposed a manufacturer from being quite dishonest in what they were doing.

you tell me: you think that should be in 'source components' ? I didn't see the fit with that so I didn't post it there.

it didn't seem to be about 'sound science' since there was no technology being discussed, unless you consider outright fraud to be a technology issue.

it was audio related but not really headphones related; not DIY related; I just didn't find any other place other than 'lounge' to post this. and it did have a humor side to it and, again, lounge seemed the right place for this.
+1 though i dont think its fraud, like i said earlier, im sure oppo is in on it.
post #39 of 94
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what I meant is that its fraud on the part of lexicon!

oppo cannot be at fault, can they? even if they 'asked' to be put inside another box (wow) its the outside 'wrapper' that is deceptive.
post #40 of 94
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what I meant is that its fraud on the part of lexicon!

oppo cannot be at fault, can they? even if they 'asked' to be put inside another box (wow) its the outside 'wrapper' that is deceptive.
no, i get that, im saying its not fraud becuase im sure its all licensed with oppo, hence not fraud. Its just an oem thing lexicon did im sure. its not actually fraud to dress it up and charge more for it.
post #41 of 94
Not fraud that meets the current US legal definition, rather fraud as in it is a deceptive marketing practice bereft of corporate integrity or respect for the customer.
post #42 of 94
Lexicon has done this in the past with other source components, it theta or ayre doing anything better then lexicon? All theta did was change out the power supply for one that they think is better, no objective information yet. And all ayre added was a power supply and their ancient DAC card that has been in serveral other of their units.
post #43 of 94
Looks like the lexicon performes worse then the oppo, due to the fact that the lexicon does not run the newest oppo firmware. It has a bass management issue.
post #44 of 94
What constitutes fraud in this case is that Lexicon has stated that they had made significant, performance-enhancing changes to the hardware on the Oppo player when they obviously did no such thing.
post #45 of 94
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What constitutes fraud in this case is that Lexicon has stated that they had made significant, performance-enhancing changes to the hardware on the Oppo player when they obviously did no such thing.
But they did! Do you think magic dust comes cheap?
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