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post #31 of 2736
By the way, Kingwa finally answered my question about the screws protruding from the top and sides. They weren't fastened down all the way for the photos.

I think it's a simple, nice looking unit and is finally ready for reviewers to take seriously now that it also has multiple inputs. Are there any reviewers that don't require multiple dealers in place before a product is reviewed? What about companies that sell direct?
post #32 of 2736
I've asked Kingwa if it would be possible to put this in the RE7:

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post #33 of 2736
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
I've asked Kingwa if it would be possible to put this in the RE7:

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I pointed them out to him before and apparently they are not reliable enough, which is a pity. I've heard rumours of a new USB 2.0 compliant chip that will do 24/192, which might be better.
post #34 of 2736
Yes, the XMOS, but that is a whole board, if that is what you are referring to. I'm not aware of a standalone 24/192 chip.

I would never use USB as my primary method of streaming music, unless the technology finally rose to the SQ equivalent of S/PDIF. The Sonicweld Diverter is close though.
post #35 of 2736
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Originally Posted by scootermafia View Post
Someone had to do it.
I don't get this... do what exactly?
Make a successor to their own product?
post #36 of 2736
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Originally Posted by nattonrice View Post
I don't get this... do what exactly?
Make a successor to their own product?
He meant start a thread for it.
post #37 of 2736
It looks great and finally I'd have it in my rack without being embarrassed how it looks but to picky why isn't he using 75ohm cable for the SPDIF input? He should have coax to the board. If he doesn't even maintain 75ohms there, then I don't why you'd bother with fancy cables.

Also I don't ever remember anyone saying that AES is better than SPDIF, its just SPDIF but worse. It is for long runs in noisy environments, not lower jitter.

Personally, I think I'd skip that all together and feed the M2Tech HI-Face's I2S direct into the DSP1.

I want one badly, $1700 is okay but the couple hundred in postage and I dread to think what the import duty is over here. I am in that part of Asia very soon but I'd have to empty my entire suitcase and still pay excess baggage to get it home!
post #38 of 2736
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Originally Posted by Magsy View Post
It looks great and finally I'd have it in my rack without being embarrassed how it looks but to picky why isn't he using 75ohm cable for the SPDIF input? He should have coax to the board. If he doesn't even maintain 75ohms there, then I don't why you'd bother with fancy cables.

Also I don't ever remember anyone saying that AES is better than SPDIF, its just SPDIF but worse. It is for long runs in noisy environments, not lower jitter.
I liked the the looks of the RE1 and I'm pretty sure that Kingwa would mke a board able to keep a 75ohm connection via S/PDIF. I however agree with you for AES, it is only good in long distance runs and I would recommend using S/PDIF with a BNC connection.
post #39 of 2736
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Originally Posted by newcris View Post
Yesterday I received from kingwa the REF ONE and REF 3, and now I'm reading about this new REF 7! Are my gears already old?
My configuration is:
PC--->(USB)--->(REF 3)--->(BNC)--->REF ONE--->(RCA)--->(tube amp).
REF 7 seems to perform the same function as REF one + REF 3. It's right?
This is what Kingwa wrote me about my "unhappiness":
"The RE7 is not include the RE3 performance inside. The RE3 is design for upgrade the low/mid grade source, even for RE7, the RE3 still had improve on the SQ while the source not high grade.
The RE7 just more input than the RE1, in China, some customers still choice the RE1 because some users don't need much input or they want to save some money .
We don't plan to discontinue the RE1 in future, it not old."

post #40 of 2736
Quick question: today I've placed an order for the Roc amp, and Kingwa said they'll release a new dac with the same case dimension in a couple of months...
Any idea about this dac? It doesn't look like is the one we're talking about in this thread.
post #41 of 2736
Whatever it is, it will not be a replacement top-of-the-line model. The RE7 will be the top for at least a year according to Kingwa (I hope).
post #42 of 2736
Yeah, that make sense given the Roc is not the flagship model.
post #43 of 2736
I don't think the RE7 is alone at the top of the A-gd DAC lineup it just shares that spot with the RE1.

2 cents FWIW.

Peete.
post #44 of 2736
The irony about AES/EBU is that it seems to be the digital connection of choice for the high-end, yet, though the standard is 110 Ohms, 3-pin XLR plugs are not 110 Ohm. Stupid.

Anyway, all the people that hassled Kingwa for a Ref 1 with AES and optical can now buy one. We are over-indulged by him, to say the least.
post #45 of 2736
Now all he needs to do is make a DAC with I2S and a word clock input and then he'll be done!

Kingwa certainly is keeping up with requests and it's much appreciated. And it's also a smart business decision. The market is very competitive and you should always strive to stay on top.
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