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post #2701 of 2736

"Hot" as in temperature? treble?

post #2702 of 2736

as in stronger output /higher voltage/ louder headphone
 

post #2703 of 2736
Ah ok, of course, thanks.
post #2704 of 2736
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Originally Posted by tme110 View Post

 Have you been volume matching?  I just got the ref5.32 and it is slightly hotter than every other source I have (including my collection of other AGD DACs) so there's basically no way I can compare it with anything because on an A/B check it will always win and volume matching takes too much work.

 

Well, I did not volume match precisely with an SPL meter or a multimeter to measure 1Khz sinewave output, but I did this:

 

 

 

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6. Perhaps I thought the "fullness" of sound and the stronger bass response of the Ref 7.1 was from a higher volume output. So, I tried comparing with the Ref 7.1 volume lowered by a notch compared to everything else. However, this did not change my impression of superiority of the Ref 7.1 in tone/timbre, soundstage, and bass depth and texture.

 

Once again, nothing scientific, and hopefully when I have some time later I'd like to do a volume matched comparison too.

post #2705 of 2736

Hi Doobooloo,

 

Wondered if you had done these comparisons:

 

1) SBT UBS > D2 DSP > spdif > Ref 1

2) SBT UBS > D2 DSP > i2s > Ref 1

3) SBT UBS > Ref 1

 

Could you share that with us?

 

Many thanks!

post #2706 of 2736

Does anyone know if the Reference 7.1 will be given the ".32" treatment (i.e. is there a 7.32 in the works?), or is the Master 7 effectively the 7.32?

post #2707 of 2736

The Master 7 is it.

post #2708 of 2736

There are other differences.

 

The Master 7 isnt just a Ref 7.1 + usb32.

 

Macrog

post #2709 of 2736
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Originally Posted by MoonUnit View Post

Does anyone know if the Reference 7.1 will be given the ".32" treatment (i.e. is there a 7.32 in the works?), or is the Master 7 effectively the 7.32?

In fact the Reference 7.1 have assemble the USB32 kit as USB interface.

post #2710 of 2736
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Originally Posted by macrog View Post

There are other differences.

 

The Master 7 isnt just a Ref 7.1 + usb32.

 

Macrog

 

I understand that... The Master 7 has the soldered DSP board, etc. I was just curious whether the Master 7 would replace the Reference 7.1 (i.e., as an updated version) or whether the two would coexist. From Currawong's post it seems like the former is true. Also, I was looking closely at the pictures on Audio-GD's website, and the Master 7 analog circuit boards both say "Ref 7 (2011)", which made me think that this was the "new" Reference 7.1. In retrospect, maybe it just means that the analog boards are the same or very similar between the Ref 7.1 and Master 7.

 

(BTW, I noticed that the "SA-20" circuit boards say "RE-9A", which seems to suggest that the SA-20 is the replacement for the old Reference 9.)


Edited by MoonUnit - 10/15/12 at 1:31am
post #2711 of 2736

Unless I'm mistaken, the major change is the digital board, which is new.

post #2712 of 2736
hi,i am searching a DAC and amp for d7100, how does the combation of reference 7+ master 8? Does reference 5 and reference 7 really have obvious difference of sound quality? How about reference 10?
post #2713 of 2736
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Originally Posted by Alanaudio View Post

hi,i am searching a DAC and amp for d7100, how does the combation of reference 7+ master 8? Does reference 5 and reference 7 really have obvious difference of sound quality? How about reference 10?

I have the Ref 7.1 and Master 6 and they are absolutely superb in both SQ and engineering.
Your headphones are so new, that I am afraid that very few (if any) will be able to give you a first hand impression with this combo.

post #2714 of 2736

no one knows what you will hear and I'm sure people will disagree but I'm sure the average person and esp most new poeple into this hobby would hear a difference between the ref 5 and 7,
 

post #2715 of 2736
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alanaudio View Post

hi,i am searching a DAC and amp for d7100, how does the combation of reference 7+ master 8? Does reference 5 and reference 7 really have obvious difference of sound quality? How about reference 10?

I may be the closest- I have the Master-5, Ref-8 and D600 and it sounds great. The D7000 sounded better to me though but I needed more isolation than it provided.

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