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post #2461 of 2524
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Originally Posted by shamu144 View Post

Some observations...

While the DSP1 allows for different filter settings, they all belong to the same linear phase family, with different stopband attenuation settings. You might want to investigate other types of digital filters like minimum phase filters, which can only be done in software, prior to sending the datas to the Ref 7.1. I use Fidelia for this. The first filter is said to have the most impact on sound. I certainly agree.

I do upsample all material to 24/96 through Fidelia, using a specific filter setting (minimum phase apodising filter), because this setting sounds best to my ears. So my experience is likely to be very different from someone using a CD transport or relying only on the digital filters settings of the DSP1.

As such, I found the NOS setting to sound really really good (remember this applies only for a 24/96 apodised file and with my specific settings). Great sense of presence, flow and interaction of instruments. Soundstage is quite narrow though. 4 times oversampling in the DSP1 with a stopband attenuation of -50dB enhance the soundstage depth and width without any obvious downside (probably my favorite at this point). 2 times oversampling and -90dB brought relatively similar results (soundstage slightly narower than 4 times OS and -50dB) while 4 times oversampling and -90dB do harden the sound too much for my taste. 8 times oversampling and -130dB is almost unbearable for me. Technically very impressive, with largest soundstage by far, but all the life of instruments and voices is sucked out resulting in a dry and edgy sound.

As I said, it is relatively easy to tune the Ref 7.1 sound to one's preferences.

Okay, thanks!
Others who have tried the different settings in the Ref 7.1 are very welcome to add their findings.
post #2462 of 2524

How does the Ref 7.1 stack up against the Wyred 4 Sound Dac2? Has anyone heard both? This is for a home 2 channel set up.

post #2463 of 2524
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Originally Posted by maguire View Post

How does the Ref 7.1 stack up against the Wyred 4 Sound Dac2? Has anyone heard both? This is for a home 2 channel set up.

I think John Darko at Digital Audio Review has reviewed both. He bought the Ref 7.1 ....
post #2464 of 2524

 

Sure Ref 7.1 is one of the best. Right decision.

post #2465 of 2524

Thanks guys, I have heard the Wyred 4 Sound Dac2 in my system and thought it quite special, but you guys saying the ref 7.1......Wow it must awesome......Its certainly piqued my interest thats for sure.

post #2466 of 2524

 

You won't regret for picking Ref7.1.

post #2467 of 2524

Thanks Jimmy I hope to Audition one in the coming weeks. 

post #2468 of 2524
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Thanks Jimmy I hope to Audition one in the coming weeks. 


What source will you be using with it?  A clean source is extremely important to get the most out of the Ref 7.1.

 

post #2469 of 2524

That's a good question, at the moment I have a Cambridge 840c that is pretty average if i may say..... Does Kingwa still do one,any sources/transports still? not according to his website but wonder if he may if requested

post #2470 of 2524
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Originally Posted by maguire View Post

That's a good question, at the moment I have a Cambridge 840c that is pretty average if i may say..... Does Kingwa still do one,any sources/transports still? not according to his website but wonder if he may if requested


The 840c is a pretty good unit, and for transport duty should be okay.  Can you upsample the transport output to 24/96?  I know you can using it as a DAC.

 

post #2471 of 2524

Yes I believe it does, but I am having all sorts of board issues with it at the moment, so probably wise to get a new source one day soon.

That is why I asked whether Kingwa still makes transports, or what else would you suggest?

That said I can still get sound out of it through digital out, but tray issues also driving me nuts .....taking forever to load & recognise disc as it keeps spitting discs out. Try and get it fixed but to no avail, so I need new transport........

post #2472 of 2524

Are you firm on using a CDP?

post #2473 of 2524

Im open to suggestions, It does not have to be cd player

 

post #2474 of 2524

The reason I ask is that the quality of computer-based audio has improved considerably with the availability of very good USB to S/PDIF converters.

post #2475 of 2524

So do you think Im better off buying a laptop?........Reason being I want this Dac to run with main rig. As I am interested in their pre & Mono blocks also.

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