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post #1 of 11
1/4/10 at 7:09pm
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Hello.
I've finally decided that I'm going to buy the Sansa Clip portable player. Checking amazon.co.uk there seem to be 2 kinds,
the SDMX18R - 004GB - E57
SDMX18R - 008GK -E57

wondering are these the same?

also, I'm guessing I should definitely choose 8gb over 4gb, right?


(btw have to use amazon as have a gift voucher)
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post #2 of 11
1/5/10 at 9:48am
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sansa clip advice needed

I've just checked amazon again for the 8gb sansa clip.

the original price on one was £119, now £40. I cannot understand why, unless it's an old model(?). I'm assuming this would be the better one to buy over the one that was £50, now £49....???

any feedback would be appreciated

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post #3 of 11
1/5/10 at 1:40pm
Just a guess but seeing the 004GB and 008GK designations I would say that the 004GB is 4gb and the 008GK is 8gb.
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post #4 of 11
1/6/10 at 9:33pm
Going on the US site, SDMX18R - 004GB - E57 is a Sansa Clip (4GB) and the SDMX18R - 008GK -E57 is a Sansa Clip+ (8GB).

There are three versions of the Clip, keep in mind:

v1. Firmware shows as 1.xxx. First version, and no 8GB if I recall correctly.

v2. Firmware shows as 2.xxx. Second version, includes an 8GB version.

Clip+. Firmware shows as 1.xxx. Versions up to 8GB. Noticable difference between the v1 Clip and the Clip+ is the addition of a MicroSD slot on the latter.

As for which is "best", it depends. The v1 Clip has a working Rockbox port, so that's a plus. The v2 Clip has a pitch issue which, tmk, has not been corrected yet (it was bad enough that I had to return mine). The Clip+ is an overall improvement with gapless support, no pitch issues, improved button placement and a MicroSD slot. But, no Rockbox port yet (if that's important to you). The Clip+ also has a problem with some OGG Vorbis tags that cause the database refresh to fail (see a previous post of mine in regards to that issue).
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post #5 of 11
1/6/10 at 11:07pm
Here is the spectrum analysis results by dfkt regarding the clip issue you mention.
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post #6 of 11
1/7/10 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by WalkGood View Post
Here is the spectrum analysis results by dfkt regarding the clip issue you mention.

I've looked at those graphs. But I can play "Jerusalem Ridge" by Tony Rice in iTunes, and (sort of) play along on my (in-tune with an electronic tuner) guitar, and it's all in tune. And then I can try the same thing but using a v2 Clip. And the v2 Clip plays noticeably flat. In fact, it plays about 1/5 of a semitone flat. That makes it very noticeably out-of-tune with my guitar.

If you don't mind a player playing 1/5 of a semitone flat, then the Clip v2 is a nice player. But as someone who can hear that it's playing noticeably flat, no graph can convince me that the flaw is negligible.
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post #7 of 11
1/7/10 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by roebeet View Post
v1. Firmware shows as 1.xxx. First version, and no 8GB if I recall correctly.
That is correct. When I bought mine a few years ago (it's still going btw, I'm listening to it right now) I wanted an 8gb player but could only get as high as four.
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post #8 of 11
1/8/10 at 1:20am
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Originally Posted by sanka View Post
I've looked at those graphs. But I can play "Jerusalem Ridge" by Tony Rice in iTunes, and (sort of) play along on my (in-tune with an electronic tuner) guitar, and it's all in tune. And then I can try the same thing but using a v2 Clip. And the v2 Clip plays noticeably flat. In fact, it plays about 1/5 of a semitone flat. That makes it very noticeably out-of-tune with my guitar.

If you don't mind a player playing 1/5 of a semitone flat, then the Clip v2 is a nice player. But as someone who can hear that it's playing noticeably flat, no graph can convince me that the flaw is negligible.
I also noticed the v2 pitch issue, fairly quickly - there's one song that I play often and the pitch was noticeably different to me. I then did some research and found that it was a known bug in the firmware.

Sansa had this same issue with the Fuze, which they corrected with a firmware update. But, as far as I know, Sansa has yet to correct this issue in the v2 Clip.
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post #9 of 11
1/8/10 at 3:51am
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Originally Posted by tizadu View Post
I've just checked amazon again for the 8gb sansa clip.

the original price on one was £119, now £40. I cannot understand why, unless it's an old model(?). I'm assuming this would be the better one to buy over the one that was £50, now £49....???

any feedback would be appreciated
I have contacted to other American webstore for the curious favorit price. The salesman answered me it was a refurbished one's price. Maybe the same to your suspection.
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post #10 of 11
1/8/10 at 5:06am
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Originally Posted by headfever View Post
I have contacted to other American webstore for the curious favorit price. The salesman answered me it was a refurbished one's price. Maybe the same to your suspection.
Hi, I ordered that model in amazon.co.uk (SanDisk SDMX18R-008GK-E57 Sansa Clip 8GB) for 39.99 gbp its supposed to be new. When I get my hands on it I will reply if its new or not.
Anyway in sansa's official web the 8gb model is at 70$ wich is about the same prize as 40 gbp.
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post #11 of 11
1/12/10 at 9:33am
well I got my clip+ today and I can confirm that is New and its working great
good deal for 40 pounds
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