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post #31 of 69
1/4/10 at 12:46am
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Originally Posted by Koyaan I. Sqatsi View Post
I know of at least one person who cyoed an entire power amplifier.

Ironically, the thermistors didn't survive.
"excuse me everyone, can I have your attention? thanks. it seems we need to get the beatles back together because the audiophiles wish to re-record their songs but this time, using cryo-treated cables."

I love it when audiophiles think that the last mile can change things so magically. one small twist of one eq knob on one console before the record was cut and this blows away all cable mods they can make.

audiophiles crack me up. sometimes. they claim its about the music but its clearly not, when they get to this level of insanity and obsession about something they claim is 'all about the sound'.

and if its not cryo its some other lunatic fringe quest that never ends.
post #32 of 69
1/4/10 at 12:49am
Hey Linux, have you spent any quality time with any gear that was cryo'd?
post #33 of 69
1/4/10 at 2:03am
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Originally Posted by BIG POPPA View Post
Hey Linux, have you spent any quality time with any gear that was cryo'd?
Have you spent any quality time whilst having photographs of yourself and your audio gear in the freezer compartment of your refrigerator?

I have my photos in the freezer, and it has not only improved my enjoyment of music at home, but at fellow audiophiles homes nearby, and as far away as Las Vegas during this year’s CES. --Carol Clark, reviewer, Positive Feedback

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post #34 of 69
1/4/10 at 2:12am
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Originally Posted by Koyaan I. Sqatsi View Post
Have you spent any quality time whilst having photographs of yourself and your audio gear in the freezer compartment of your refrigerator?

I have my photos in the freezer, and it has not only improved my enjoyment of music at home, but at fellow audiophiles homes nearby, and as far away as Las Vegas during this year’s CES. --Carol Clark, reviewer, Positive Feedback

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Positive Feedback is a joke of a publication.
post #35 of 69
1/4/10 at 2:17am
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
Positive Feedback is a joke of a publication.
But Carol Clark isn't the only one to have purported improved sound due to photographs in the freezer.

And what exactly makes it a joke?

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post #36 of 69
1/4/10 at 2:22am
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Originally Posted by Koyaan I. Sqatsi View Post
But Carol Clark isn't the only one to have purported improved sound due to photographs in the freezer.

And what exactly makes it a joke?

se
The fact they give positive reviews for 99.9% of every single product they review. If an audio review company makes no negative reviews, how can you take the positive ones seriously?
post #37 of 69
1/4/10 at 2:24am
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
The fact they give positive reviews for 99.9% of every single product they review. If an audio review company makes no negative reviews, how can you take the positive ones seriously?
Name a review magazine that doesn't.

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post #38 of 69
1/4/10 at 2:54am
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
The fact they give positive reviews for 99.9% of every single product they review. If an audio review company makes no negative reviews, how can you take the positive ones seriously?
What, you mean like most of the "big name reviewers" here at Head-Fi?


Not calling anybody out, just saying...
post #39 of 69
1/4/10 at 3:59am
I hate 6moons.com 's reviews, they play with fanncy English words too much, I often lost their points during reading.
post #40 of 69
1/4/10 at 4:19am
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Originally Posted by Raez View Post
What, you mean like most of the "big name reviewers" here at Head-Fi?


Not calling anybody out, just saying...
Depends on the price of the gear. If something for $1000 performs way above its price class it will most likely get a great review and be warranted. But if you have a $10,000 component that sounds only as good as a $3,000 component and it gets a "best product ever" review, that's a problem.

Since these publications have reviewers that have heard gear in every price range, they should rate them accordingly. Not all of them can possibly be the best product ever. People on Head-Fi have most likely not heard (or spent serious time with) even 1/4 of the products that are reviewed by these publications, so they can only compare them to components they have heard. More leeway should be given to the reviewers here than someone who is paid money to review audio gear for a living.
post #41 of 69
1/4/10 at 4:33am
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
But if you have a $10,000 component that sounds only as good as a $3,000 component and it gets a "best product ever" review, that's a problem.
If a $10,000 component sounds only as good as a $3,000 component to whom though?

You can have five people listen to the same component and it's not impossible to get five vastly different assessments of it.

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Since these publications have reviewers that have heard gear in every price range, they should rate them accordingly.
They generally do.

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post #42 of 69
1/4/10 at 4:02pm
If we can start a list of gear that doesn't pair well with cryo cables that would be great. If any of my gear end up on that list I will have a few other opinions check it out at the next Seattle meet. If any gear doesn't work well with Cryo'd cables. To me that is very interesting.
post #43 of 69
1/4/10 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
Depends on the price of the gear. If something for $1000 performs way above its price class it will most likely get a great review and be warranted. But if you have a $10,000 component that sounds only as good as a $3,000 component and it gets a "best product ever" review, that's a problem.

Since these publications have reviewers that have heard gear in every price range, they should rate them accordingly. Not all of them can possibly be the best product ever. People on Head-Fi have most likely not heard (or spent serious time with) even 1/4 of the products that are reviewed by these publications, so they can only compare them to components they have heard. More leeway should be given to the reviewers here than someone who is paid money to review audio gear for a living.
I disagree. While most of the time reviewers here are not directly paid (if they ever are), it is very common that they are allowed to keep the gear, assuming their review is positive. That said, I trust very few official reviews here.

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Originally Posted by BIG POPPA View Post
If we can start a list of gear that doesn't pair well with cryo cables that would be great. If any of my gear end up on that list I will have a few other opinions check it out at the next Seattle meet. If any gear doesn't work well with Cryo'd cables. To me that is very interesting.
Considering cryo'd cables do the exact same thing as normal cable, and sound the same, that would imply some gear doesn't work well with cables. If that's the case, it's a big problem.
post #44 of 69
1/4/10 at 8:41pm

Why?

If cryo'd parts were BS would some companies that have high pedigree for audio deal only with cryo's parts? Ed Meitner appears to have quite the background for audio, and his own cables are cryo'd. Are people calling him/his company a scam artist?

B
post #45 of 69
1/4/10 at 9:01pm
There is difference between $10 quick cyro job VS. legitimate cyro process, I thinnnnnnnnnnnk.
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