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I remember having made an enthusiastic review about UE Triple.fi 10 Pro exactly two years ago, this very period of the year. Coming from cheaper stuff and not having experimented much with tweaks, and also having never heard (back then) serious stuff, I was very excited about their sound and gave them a very enthusiastic review (one of my first).

Two years of "education" later, my super-tweaked Altec Lansing were almost dead (cable issues) when the Amazon deal popped out, and thanks to a fellow USA Head-Fi'er I managed to buy a cheap Triple.fi VI to replace the Altec.

I wish to give some quick impressions, both about build quality and sound quality, and an equally quick overall comment.
The cable looks like crap. It's incredibly poor quality, it's thankfully very flexible but also extremely fragile, cheap at the tact, similar to that of Klipsch Image X10 but probably even more fragile. Two years ago, UE used to put on cables that were very stiff (horrible in this regard) but also very sturdy, which felt very expensive and nice looking. Aren't they able to make everything right? They must be saving a lot of money on the current cable, I don't know how much it will last on my pair, but I am disappointed.
Thankfully, due to the TF wearing style, it's not too microphonic and it's pretty flexible, so I don't hate it too much when walking.

Sound quality is disappointing. I am very impressed about how much IEMs have improved during the last two years. If TF10 came out now they wouldn't be allowed to cost more than 150$-200$.
The tone leaves something to desire: there is too much midbass prominence (reminds me to rubber balls hitting the floor), although not as nausea inducing as Altec Lansing in Bass mode (I used them in HD mode). The bass manages to be pretty deep and big sounding, but it's too prominent over the rest of the spectrum. The midrange is more recessed than I remembered using complys, vocals are a bit too far away (a few rows behind), they don't involve me much. Treble isn't too prominent as I was lead to believe when I had my second pair matched with an iMod and Minibox E+ (bg not burnt in and minibox' own charater made the overall sound very sibilant), it's on the soft side and not distracting. Often sound subdued actually, but overall it's pretty acceptable. The soundstage is pretty good for a IEM, microdetails aren't anything to write home about when using mp3 players (I was using Sansa Clip), but scale impressively when using them out of a serious DAC. Soundstage scales well too out of good sources and amplification. Unfortunately, the tonal flaws are too apparent and apply to basically any kind of music, spoiling a lot of it.

General comments? They aren't better than my Altec HD mode + Long comply tips (40$) nor the Head Direct RE252 (200$). I'd say the Triple.fi are an acceptable listen for a 100$ tool, but they need to revise their regular price since in today's IEM market, putting them at 379$ is not too fair to the buyers.
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I forgot to mention that I prefer using Comply tips with them. Single flanged ones make them even more midbassy, while Head Direct biflanges make the mids more recessed and treble moar sibilant.
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Do you think the drivers have changed, or is it the rest of the market evolving? You never know if Logitech actually did change something internally to save a few bucks.
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I thought the Complys were a terrible match for the TripleFi, really muffled the highs and just in general did not sound good at all. I'm not a huge fan of the cable myself, as it is too thin and seems to get tangled easily. I really liked the thicker cable on my SCL4 in this regard, but that developed a short in just a few months of usage.
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Actually Comply are among the few that make the mids half decent...

I remember treble being more forward so, yes, Logitech might have tweaked something internally to make it cheaper, but then they forgot to "tweak" the list price too.
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there is too much midbass prominence
How do you feel about the IE8?
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Haven't heard them. From fuchinove's graphs and some fellows' impressions I'd expect them being bassier than the TF10, but I can't say anything "first hand".
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Originally Posted by antonyfirst View Post
Haven't heard them. From fuchinove's graphs and some fellows' impressions I'd expect them being bassier than the TF10, but I can't say anything "first hand".
They take the midbass hump of the se530 and multiply it by five. This is on the lowest bass setting.
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Hahahah, then your description is coherent with everything I have read/seen (graphs).
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Interesting read, thanks. I don't really have an array of IEMs to contrast them against, but I felt my $99 TF10s compared quite favourably against the RE0s which were roughly the same price.
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I agree: I'd surely choose the TF10 over the RE0 for 100$.
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Here's a question: What if you're looking for a V-shaped frequency response? Now does the TF10 come into the spot light?
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Hey Tony, that was an interesting read. I also picked up another pair of Trips a week ago (having sold my ones back in May last year) - and don't remember them being nearly as engaging as the first time I owned them

I've had a fair few phones since then - W3, UM3X, IE8, C710's etc... and while the Trips still sound pretty nice, I find they're too warm for me now. And the treble, which I used to think was lively and sparkly, just seems to sound overly pronounced. Weird how something I liked so much could have fallen so low in my estimation!

They represent great value for $100, but even at that price, I can't fall back in love with them again.

My tastes have changed too much
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Here's a question: What if you're looking for a V-shaped frequency response? Now does the TF10 come into the spot light?
Hmm, then I suggest that you use something equivalent to Head-direct biflanges (the stock ones don't fit me well, so I can't say), because single flanged tips or complys don't make the tone sound like a real V. Personally, I don't consider it very good for all arounders but then that's me.
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Hey Julie, I see you now have the Klipsch S4. How do you feel about them? I haven't been very present on the boards, so I must have missed a lot of stuff and impressions.
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