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post #16 of 434
12/29/09 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by BigTony View Post
True, but i'm worried about the width of the amp, i'm tight on space in my listening room.
Stack it your audio stuff, amp on dac etc. The 332S will be better for high impedance stuff like the hd650/hd600 stuff.
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post #17 of 434
12/29/09 at 6:56pm
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Originally Posted by gbacic View Post
is it just me or do these look extremely similar inside? I think that the 332s will be a 332c with dual volume and a preamp.
That's a picture of the 3322 and the 332 classic. The 332S is a whole new beast.
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post #18 of 434
12/29/09 at 6:57pm
The original 332 was great with hd6xx's (from what I hear, I wish I had one ) so why wouldn't the 332c be good with them as well. It also says on Boyier that it's drive impedance is 32-600 ohms.
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post #19 of 434
12/29/09 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by gbacic View Post
The original 332 was great with hd6xx's (from what I hear, I wish I had one ) so why wouldn't the 332c be good with them as well. It also says on Boyier that it's drive impedance is 32-600 ohms.
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Originally Posted by yuking09 View Post
The old 332 uesd two SOLEN capacitor which is in the left and right channels are 30uf
The new 332 used two EC capacitor which is in the left and right channels are 40uf , the new 332 is more suitable for the low-frequency low-impedance headphones

new 3322(332s) still testing.
Taken from the 3322 thread.
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post #20 of 434
12/29/09 at 7:03pm
Heat is my worry (yeah with snow outside for the last 10 days!) but my dac gets hot, so i've given it a full shelf and nothing but air on top (runs much cooler now) .. which leaved me with a half rack slot free (9 inches) which is great for the 332c..
The old 332 was great with my hd650's - really perfect match ..
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post #21 of 434
12/29/09 at 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by gbacic View Post
The original 332 was great with hd6xx's (from what I hear, I wish I had one ) so why wouldn't the 332c be good with them as well. It also says on Boyier that it's drive impedance is 32-600 ohms.
I've got one with a pair of 600s. Pure freakin' magic.
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post #22 of 434
12/30/09 at 5:43am

What will 332s look like?

On another site, I found these pictures of the new Figaro 332s. I hope this will be the final design, it looks gorgeous imo! Yuking, can you tell us which version is the final one?
LL
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post #23 of 434
12/30/09 at 3:12pm


no pre amp function.......
input wire pass on a high voltage wire...... not afaid of noise... signal and power supply wire cross over as least 2 times

no more vishay mkp output cap...What I guess...the blue vishay 0.47uf is used, but in 3322....it is for driving power amp in preamp function..............not a good stand alone cap for headphone......It seems there is a cap stand up from the top of this amp and parallel with 0.47uf vishay. But what is it? since the output cap is one of the most important part of a amp...hard to be good as 3322's mkp

there is many spare space...good for DIYer...Good lcuk~
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post #24 of 434
12/30/09 at 11:44pm
From 3322 thread
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Originally Posted by Godkin View Post
Yuking09 kindly PMed me yesterday. This is part of what he wrote:

Hello Godkin
The first 332S is produced today
332S' material
Tube is two OTK6 m1 ,two 6C19 .
Potentiometer is made inJapan.
The output capacitor is made in Japan SH-HPX, capacity is 65UF
What is SH-HPX? put it into google....result is back to headfi
SH-HPX - Google æœå°‹

what if you put vishay mkp(using in 3322), you gonna found some hifi related links...
vishay mkp - Google æœå°‹




The old 332 uesd two SOLEN capacitor 30uf each channel
The new 332 used two EC capacitor 40uf each channel

10uf different have signifcant impovement....? What you guess? For lower impedence, DIY-er put a 470uf for output normally in HK and Taiwan....

you all can try "solen" and "EC capacitor" in google as well......

Since I am a chinese , read both simpfied chinese, traditional's and english, what i heard about darkvoice....2 partner broke up. They are one hifi designer and boss.

Appearantly, designer own the old name of darkvoice.....the La Figaro's owner is a capitalist, replacing neutrick...cmc... As all hifi designer seperate the power and signal parts......sheilding...spacing....La Figaro try to mix them with new chemistry in his new 3322! rofl
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post #25 of 434
12/31/09 at 6:43am
roughly speaking......green is signal part; red is power



The red arrow is pointing to about 130V dc wire and green for signal



3322 has a more separate arrangement. and signal wire were sticked to the case...

Hope this helps for you. 希望幫到你...yuking09

happy new year to all headfier~
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post #26 of 434
12/31/09 at 11:15am
Thanks for you insights, Ogygia. Very interesting.
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post #27 of 434
12/31/09 at 3:30pm
Yes, very interesting, thanks Ogygia.

I was getting very worried over Christmas because I ordered a 337, just before reading of the split and subsequent QC issues (especially with Lucky Frog Audio).

Ah well, too late now, I just hope it lives up to my hopes (to pair with my HD600s)......
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post #28 of 434
1/1/10 at 8:55pm
How much will the 332S cost ? I don't know if I should get 332C or 332S... I like everything on the 332S, except the two volume knobs... I don't know how I should handle that... Isn't it hard to get exactly the same volume in both channels ?? And every time you want increase or decrease the volume, you have to first lower one of them and then take time getting the other channel right too.... I don't know if I can handle that... Why couldn't they just make it like the 332C....

About "luckyfrogaudio", will he get this amp ? I've been looking for some place I could buy a tube amp inside Europe for a long time now... It looks like I've found one finally, and a good one !


EDIT: BTW, when will you be able to buy a 332S ?
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post #29 of 434
1/2/10 at 7:23am
Is the La Figaro 332C bad for the HD650 ? You said it's not good with higher impedance headphones... Damn... I maybe wont like the 332S's two knobs.... Maybe I have to get used to have two....
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post #30 of 434
1/2/10 at 8:08am
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Originally Posted by Ozer View Post
Is the La Figaro 332C bad for the HD650 ? You said it's not good with higher impedance headphones... .
No, on the contrary. All current Darkvoice & La Figaro models - hence including the 332C - are specifically designed for high impedance phones like your HD650. In your case, it sounds like the 332C with it's single volume control will make you more happy than the 332S.
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