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Amp For Shure SRH840?

post #1 of 24
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I got a pair of these (SRH840) for xmas, and they do sound really good, but seem to lack bass.

What i am looking for are some suggestions for two things

A portable amp to use with an iPod

&

An amp to use on my desk with my computer, or whatever other source i choose


Preferably $200 or less, unless spending that little wouldn't be worth it, then I'd be open to more suggestions.


Also, is a DAC necessary when using an amp? If so, i guess i would like some suggestions on an all in one unit or accompanying DAC if possible.


Thanks!

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post #2 of 24
For desktop amps, the HiFiMan EF2 works well with them at $169 (and a good pair of tubes like Mullard CV4010 for $20 improves it a ton), and the Nuforce uDAC is supposed to be excellent bang for the buck at $99.

A DAC isn't necessary for using an amp if you use your computer's onboard sound, but it will help sound quality tremendously because onboard is rubbish.
post #3 of 24
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Originally Posted by somestranger26 View Post
For desktop amps, the HiFiMan EF2 works well with them at $169 (and a good pair of tubes like Mullard CV4010 for $20 improves it a ton), and the Nuforce uDAC is supposed to be excellent bang for the buck at $99.

A DAC isn't necessary for using an amp if you use your computer's onboard sound, but it will help sound quality tremendously because onboard is rubbish.

So does the HiFiMan EF2 have built in DAC?

Any more suggestions?
post #4 of 24
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Second question, will an AMP improve the Bass and sound for the SHURE SRH840, or will i be waisting my money?

Maybe i should have went with the Denon's?
post #5 of 24
yes, amping these 'phones definatley imroves there bass. I wouldn't recomend a tube amp. Go with solid-state and you will need a DAC.
post #6 of 24
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So does the HiFiMan EF2 have built in DAC?
Yes

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Second question, will an AMP improve the Bass and sound for the SHURE SRH840, or will i be waisting my money?
Yes, it will improve.

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yes, amping these 'phones definatley imroves there bass. I wouldn't recomend a tube amp. Go with solid-state and you will need a DAC.
Tubes vs Solid State is all individual preference. My friend's SRH840 sound very good with the EF2 and my TU-882.
post #7 of 24
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Originally Posted by somestranger26 View Post
Yes



Yes, it will improve.



Tubes vs Solid State is all individual preference. My friend's SRH840 sound very good with the EF2 and my TU-882.
Will the gain from the amp be worth it vs getting a different set of headphones?

Like right now when i hook it up directly to my ipod or computer, i can kind of "hear" where the bass is, but its just lacking, like you cant feel it, and there isn't any depth to it. I usually have the EQ to set to flat or off, but in order to gain some bass ive messed with the EQ settings, and when i do on songs with heavier bass, it sounds distorted sounding.

Would the amp resolve these issues completely, or would i be better off going with a set like the Denon AH200, which i read have pretty good bass, and can be modified with different pads to have even better bass.

I'm not a bass freak, i just like to "feel" it and for it to let me know that its definitely there.
post #8 of 24
I find my 840s are picky about which amp I use, although I don't have that many "proper" amps to play with and am still burning them in, so take my opinions with a grain of salt. They sound great going through some sources, and utterly boring going through others.
post #9 of 24
The SRH840's sound amazingly fun with my WA6, so it can definitely sound good with a good tube amp. If anything solid state amps will sound colder, which could make 840's even more analytical than it already is... I don't think I'd personally enjoy that, but it comes down to preference I suppose.
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by oPEEPINGTOMo View Post
Will the gain from the amp be worth it vs getting a different set of headphones?

Like right now when i hook it up directly to my ipod or computer, i can kind of "hear" where the bass is, but its just lacking, like you cant feel it, and there isn't any depth to it. I usually have the EQ to set to flat or off, but in order to gain some bass ive messed with the EQ settings, and when i do on songs with heavier bass, it sounds distorted sounding.

Would the amp resolve these issues completely, or would i be better off going with a set like the Denon AH200, which i read have pretty good bass, and can be modified with different pads to have even better bass.

I'm not a bass freak, i just like to "feel" it and for it to let me know that its definitely there.
Let me put it in very simple terms: If you get better headphones, you'll need an amp anyway.

If you want bass you can feel, look into Ultrasone's HFI and PRO lines.

If you want to EQ without distortion, set the highest equalization frequency at 0dB, and the rest in the negative range. If you are doing something like +3dB at 100hZ this will result in distortion because you're adding volume information that wasn't there before.
post #11 of 24
Well my 840s have got the exact bass, but much more refined than as I used to have with Ultrasone 780s. I still don't understand.
post #12 of 24
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Well my 840s have got the exact bass, but much more refined than as I used to have with Ultrasone 780s. I still don't understand.
What do you mean your 840's have got the "exact bass"?
post #13 of 24
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So it being said that i am going to get an amp/dac regardless, would i also be better off exchanging these phones for a different set while i still can?


If so Denon? Ultrasone? I feel so lost again!
I wish there was somewhere around here that i could try some out but i dont know of anywhere.


I never would have thought in a million years getting good pair of Hphones would seem almost like work, lol.
post #14 of 24
From my limited understanding, nay. An amplifier would help bring the Shures to their full potential, and if you read a couple of articles on amplification and the importance of it here or on Headwize, you'll see that an amp is required pretty much for any headphones.

The posters here are simply saying that you should consider purchasing an amplifier for the SRH840s. If you have time, read the SRH840 Impressions thread (84 pages I think?) and you'll see the pros and cons of the SRH840. Since headphones within the $200 range are not fully superior over others, you should make a decision on what you are looking for in headphones.

I do plan on buying the SRH840s eventually, but I'm willing to say that from what I read, they are a perfectly fine (awesome in my opinion) set of cans.
post #15 of 24
I would suggest burning in the SRH840 first and see if your opinion changes. It takes about a week to burn in (around 200 hours).

I've also found the SRH840 to benefit from an amp (though it doesn't really need one), so if you'd rather not buy an amp (plus DAC), then maybe you might want to consider an alternate headphone. The Audio-Technica ATH-ES7 is one example of a headphone that would be easier to use without an amp, as it's a less demanding headphone.
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