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post #3616 of 3640

yeah, I was referring to its soundstage. When I switched from DX50 to S:flo 2, everything sounded much wider, more spacious, and I could hear more details from the singer's voice.

I am afraid that I can't do a comparison with a full size headphone since I don't have one, but I can borrow one from the store.( I can do this only on weekend though...) 

 

I think DX50 is decent enough as a portable audio player, the build quality feels solid, its touch screen is very responsive which easily puts S:flo 2 to shame. But I did find some flaws, when I pressed the physical "play" button on its front, it didn't respond immediately as I had expected, the delay of the response was too long for one to be unaware of. Beside this, I also found that it took a bit too long when loading a song from other directory (I was using microSD card and my music was classified by artist, each artist had one folder).

post #3617 of 3640
The dual mono architecture helps with soundstage on the S:Flo. To improve on this its probably a much more expensive player like a Colorfly C4 or an iBasso DX100. Let us know if you get a chance to listen with over the ear headphones.
post #3618 of 3640
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Originally Posted by Sefelt103 View Post

The dual mono architecture helps with soundstage on the S:Flo. To improve on this its probably a much more expensive player like a Colorfly C4 or an iBasso DX100. Let us know if you get a chance to listen with over the ear headphones.

 

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post #3619 of 3640

The T51/S:flo2 TekMOD just sound amazing to my ears, at the moment is my best sounding DAP :etysmile: 

post #3620 of 3640

I have made a comparison of S:Flo 2 and iBasso DX50 today, using Audio Technica ATH-AD1000X, it's a full size open design headphone, I had tried it in another headphones shop with my S:Flo 2 and had been impressed by its attractive female vocal, spacious sound stage.

 

I am afraid that I am not capable of describing the sound properly, and I don't think I have good ears either, so if the following impressions look totally pointless or lame to you, I am sorry!

 

I remember last time when using Westone 3, S:Flo 2 gave me a wider sound stage, the instruments were more separated, and now with AD1000X, these remain the same, I am not quite sure about this, but when I listening to DX50, it's a bit like listening to S:flo 2 with "Normal" EQ, everything sounds to stack together, mixed, when listening to orchestral music, this is more obvious. (I didn't really do a comparison with S:flo 2 in "Normal" EQ setting though, I was using flat "User" setting on S:Flo 2.)

 

I feel that bass on DX50 is more punchy than S:Flo 2 (harder drumbeats)

I also noticed a very clear difference on this song,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OacXUzTNXo

the sound in the beginning sounds very very crispy with S:Flo 2, but sounds plain with DX50.

I am really sorry that this is as much information as I can describe.

 

Again, the test was done with headphone out on both players, and all files I used were 16bit flac, 

 

A side note: In my opinion, for the price of DX50, it is definitely better to get a Hifiman HM-601 LE instead, I have tried it when I first made the comparison of S:flo 2 and DX50 a few weeks ago, and with my Westone 3, HM-601 LE gave me a warmer sound than S:Flo 2, and the vocal sounded more forward, very attractive. And it sounded very detailed as well. Its sound quality was on par with S:Flo 2, and definitely beat DX50.

post #3621 of 3640
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Originally Posted by IINx View Post

I am afraid that I am not capable of describing the sound properly
describing the sound one hears is difficult and probably not very reliable. Thanks anyway for your impressions. It seems like the good old s:flo2 doesn't lose out to these new players.
post #3622 of 3640

A couple years ago, I bought this DAP at the hype, but didn't really like it because of the controls.

It was sitting in my closet since, yet recently I've fallen in love with it because I found two apps that really helped dealing with the files,

one is called mediamonkey, and mp3tag, most of you knew these already. 

But converting my ALAC to FLAC was a pain in the a**, thankfully mediamonkey has auto conversion.

mp3tag helped me converting album artist tag to album tag, so it would display properly in s flo2.

Setting PlayFX to LEQ (Replay Gain) and everything I hated about S flo2 is gone.

The headphone out can easily drive my ER4S without amp. Very glad that I kept it!!!!

post #3623 of 3640

I recently bought some MeElectronics A161p IEMs to replace my broken Monster Turbine Pro Bronze IEMs.  However, when used with the s:flo2 it is like the IEMS are unable to reproduce the sound properly from device.  I should state here that this is definitely not a case of one IEM being inferior to the other.  The difference is massive.  Whole sections of the track are missing - vocals layers of guitars etc.  It's like several tracks have gone from the song and I'm left listening to a couple of instruments instead of the whole thing. 

 

This doesn't happen with any other device - I use an Sony mp3 player and a sansa clip and they're fine.  Just with the s:flo2.  Anyone experience this and know what's causing it and whether there's any solution.

post #3624 of 3640

I know what's causing the problem, the plug!! (that 3.55mm jack) I have experienced the same problem when auditioning in the shop, if your earphones has volume control or microphone on its cable, the plug will have four parts on it (separated by the little black rings), which normal earphones has only three. That is the cause of this problem. The solution is easy, what you need is an extension cable (3.55 to 3.55), connect it between your iem and s:flo 2 and the problem is solved.


Edited by IINx - 2/11/14 at 11:08am
post #3625 of 3640

makes sense, the iems have a microphone.  thanks

post #3626 of 3640

I had a quick search in this thread but couldn't find the answer about charging S:flo2.

 

I don't have the stock 5V - 1.5A USB adapter.

 

I've been able to get a partial charge using a 5V - 1A USB charger. (it takes quite a while)

 

The only other option I have here currently is a Samsung 5V - 2A charger. (for a tablet)

 

Do you think using the 2A charger will be OK for S:flo2? It should only draw the 1.5A required?

 

I just want to make sure before I plug it in. 


Edited by H20Fidelity - 1/30/15 at 11:18pm
post #3627 of 3640
Should be no problem. I have a Belkin F8Z783UK Home Mains charger 2.1A and it works fine for my S:Flo 2. Most chargers will be fine as long as they are 5V DC. 1.5A chargers like that came with the original are rare these days mostly being 1A & 2A. I remember the charger that shipped with the S:Flo 2 had a government health warning in the UK.
post #3628 of 3640
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Originally Posted by Sefelt103 View Post

Should be no problem. I have a Belkin F8Z783UK Home Mains charger 2.1A and it works fine for my S:Flo 2. Most chargers will be fine as long as they are 5V DC. 1.5A chargers like that came with the original are rare these days mostly being 1A & 2A. I remember the charger that shipped with the S:Flo 2 had a government health warning in the UK.



Thanks, I've decided to plug it in and everything appears to be working/charging. :smile:

 

I have however found a USB 5V - 1.5A charger, its one used for PS Vita. Its only cheap one though I've ordered before this question was asked.

 

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May I ask, if you've followed the thread can you tell me what battery people were using to replace the original? I read some conversation regarding it earlier though never found any concrete answer? Was there any brand or model number people found worked for S:flo2?


Edited by H20Fidelity - 1/31/15 at 1:21am
post #3629 of 3640
The now banned BurnwayGTA4 did an extensive mod. for this player which used two LP473850 1090mAh batteries. I got a replacement battery from China but it was much smaller than the original and only 1500mAh (the original is 2500mAh).
post #3630 of 3640
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Originally Posted by Sefelt103 View Post

The now banned BurnwayGTA4 did an extensive mod. for this player which used two LP473850 1090mAh batteries. I got a replacement battery from China but it was much smaller than the original and only 1500mAh (the original is 2500mAh).



We've come a few years forward since then,

 

I'm wondering if there's a smartphone battery that fits with around 2000mAh. We did a recent battery change on Cowon J3 as you can see below.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/484334/cowon-j3-impressions-thread/3120#post_11206193

 

For the time being my battery appears fairly healthy and I'm happy to leave that be for now.

 

And one last question considering you currently appear the soul survivor of S:flo2. With the EQ options which setting is truly flat? Is "Normal" EQ flat or "User EQ" and leaving the custom bars at 0. I read some comments saying a few different things and would your opinion on that?


Edited by H20Fidelity - 1/31/15 at 5:37am
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