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post #31 of 364
12/10/09 at 9:27am
I'm tired of seeing and having to put up with people in my college who are just there "because it's probably a good idea". They slow down the lessons because the people who are interested have to wait to have it explained to people weren't listening in the first place.
This is a problem when you're paying for a course.

When you've also got a teacher who amongst other things, uses specialised words without explaining the context on his handouts and lessons in general, then goes around to everyone individually to help them on a basic issue that shouldn't have occurred in the first place before moving on, you have 10 minute starter topics and intros being the bulk of the lesson, with the main work being the homework and the rest being taught next lesson.
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post #32 of 364
12/10/09 at 10:41am
People who aren't one with the metal should be shot in the face...



EK
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post #33 of 364
12/10/09 at 11:54am
About these face shootings.......

Kids are picking up their attitudes from their environment. They spend a great deal of their time at home, school, social interaction and maybe that place we can't talk about.

Kids can tell right from wrong at a pretty early age. Self accountability is part of the individual. Without cause and consequences, how can they learn that laziness, stupidity and living ignorant lives will lead to a miserable life. We don't train children in areas that count. Life and character lessons. Those used to be taught at home but with both parents working and having a live of their own, the older children working, no role models are around and the kids will revert to their level of lesson, which is as little pain as possible to get what they want.

Caveat: Thank a parent, teacher or other role model that there are some very well adjusted kids out there for others to use as models. Unfortunately, they are stereotyped as something negative and shunned by most as not cool or nerdy.

Let these face shootings continue........
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post #34 of 364
12/10/09 at 11:55am
I find more and more these days institutions of learning are in the business of passing students rather than educating them.
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post #35 of 364
12/10/09 at 11:59am
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I find more and more these days institutions of learning are in the business of passing students rather than educating them.
QFT

Coached through a system. This is done at most every level of learning. Keep the cash flowing.
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post #36 of 364
12/10/09 at 12:17pm
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I find more and more these days institutions of learning are in the business of passing students rather than educating them.
My teachers often reduce the difficulty of the exams, give extra credit, or grade on a curve, because so many of the students just won't learn. I've seen 40-year-old moms and former high school delinquents put better effort than a lot of the kids my age. And many of them have the audacity to complain, even though they don't show up to class 75% of the time. The teachers don't want these kids to fail for whatever reason, so they give em a pass. I say let em burn.
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post #37 of 364
12/10/09 at 12:54pm
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Don't worry the media will inform these people as they grow.
Yes, Adriana Huffington will tell them all they need to know about life and the pamphlet on the inside cover of COD IX is a textbook.

Catachresis, great post.
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post #38 of 364
12/10/09 at 1:03pm
[QUOTE=Graphicism;6223313]Richard Dawkins - Explaining Evolution to Students in Science Class[QUOTE]


Oh, here we go with the Dawkins humpers-- intelligence by association for people that have never stepped foot in a lab. My favorite people aside from the kids who think building a computer is a skill that requires smarts more than reading at six grade level and the ability to stack egos. (I meant to type Legos but waffles work.)

I'm an atheist.
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post #39 of 364
12/10/09 at 1:05pm
I guess I've lead a pretty sheltered existence that I have rarely had to contend with rank stupidity. I did elementary -> high school in a separate gifted program that funneled off the best students/teachers (not sure how I ended up there ). Went to a liberal arts college where most people were pretty enthusiastic about learning.

Now that I'm in law school, the well reasoned arguments get almost overwhelming. It gives me the need to turn to the internet/tv for a nice uninformed rant every once in a while.
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post #40 of 364
12/10/09 at 1:09pm
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I'd like to remind folks of the rules regarding no religious or political discussions. If folks would like this thread to remain open, please don't take it down that road.
What's the logic behind that rule?
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post #41 of 364
12/10/09 at 1:28pm
It is extremely difficult to find excellent teachers in the high schools with open mind who inspires students to the next level. How refreshing to know there are high school teachers who actually care how their students think and grow. Thanks for the great thread, catachresis. We need more teachers like you for our children. It is so frustrating for my children to learn in the school with all those teachers who simply don't care one way or another. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely few teachers who inspires my kids to grow intellectually, emotionally, and beyond but those are more of exception than the norm.
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post #42 of 364
12/10/09 at 2:21pm
I'm still a little depressed at the impression that kids have gotten from movies and the Flintstones. Its amazing how many in grade 7 and 8 believe that man was not only alive with, but ruled dinosaurs in the Prehistoric age somehow.

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What's the logic behind that rule?
To decrease trolling and flame wars on a headphone forum.
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post #43 of 364
12/10/09 at 2:41pm
I know this won't fit the thread's direction but I'm going to defend the coming generation.

This thread makes me wonder how many times a generation has commented on the intelligence/work ethic/music/priorities/morality of the generation coming after them. I'm guessing oh...Every single one of them And it's a guarantee that this coming generation will rant about the generation after them as well, and the circle will continue ad-infinitum.

Not saying that there's anything wrong with ranting or that there aren't problems but if I care to remember how I was when I was in high school or 1st year university, I was a jerk*** too. I had a 1.36 (out of 4.0) GPA my 1st year university. I took my English test on "Julius Caeser" without ever having read the play. I smartened up and finished with a 3.6 (not bragging, just wanted to show substantial improvement). I now work in statistics & projections in a children's hospital where my numbers help decide where multi-millions of dollars go. Again not bragging, in fact most people's eyes glaze over if they make the mistake of asking what I do I just wanted to say that the upcoming generation might not be as scary as we think. Most will eventually "get it".
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post #44 of 364
12/10/09 at 2:52pm
It's just taking kids a lot longer to "get it." It will get to the point where they're adults and still misinformed to some extent. I'm sure that will have some negative effect on society. A reason why kids aren't developing is due to role models, targeting parents. Most parents these days assume being able to support their family with money is enough. NO! You need to teach your child some basics in discipline and hard work. Growing up in a rich neighborhood, I see parents doting their sons and daughters with expensive luxury cars. That even to me(age 16) seemed wrong. I remember my dad offering to buy me a new car, at which point I refused. I hadn't earned my worth to be driving some new car when I wasn't making money of my own. I was content in driving the family pass-me-down. Now at 25, I know it simply is wrong. How can someone expect to learn discipline and hard work when expensive gifts are just given away to you? What does that teach the child? Whine, beg, and do no real work and expect a free lunch and life. I swear those parents need schooling of their own. I guess now their children have to suffer later on when they can't support themselves or end up living at home for eternity. Not to mention, materialism has become such a part of their life that they treat everything as commodities, even other people.

/rant
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post #45 of 364
12/10/09 at 3:09pm
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I know this won't fit the thread's direction but I'm going to defend the coming generation.

This thread makes me wonder how many times a generation has commented on the intelligence/work ethic/music/priorities/morality of the generation coming after them. I'm guessing oh...Every single one of them And it's a guarantee that this coming generation will rant about the generation after them as well, and the circle will continue ad-infinitum.

Not saying that there's anything wrong with ranting or that there aren't problems but if I care to remember how I was when I was in high school or 1st year university, I was a jerk*** too. I had a 1.36 (out of 4.0) GPA my 1st year university. I took my English test on "Julius Caeser" without ever having read the play. I smartened up and finished with a 3.6 (not bragging, just wanted to show substantial improvement). I now work in statistics & projections in a children's hospital where my numbers help decide where multi-millions of dollars go. Again not bragging, in fact most people's eyes glaze over if they make the mistake of asking what I do I just wanted to say that the upcoming generation might not be as scary as we think. Most will eventually "get it".
I agree completely, the views reflected here are age old, and are expressed as concerns for every subsequent generation by adults of the time. You can find quotes from Plato that would resemble some of the comments here. So, while effort should certainly be made to address these problems, I don't buy that things have really changed.
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