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post #196 of 210

IMHO, you would have to be a SERIOUS vinyl junkie, who played a LOT of vinyl, to have it be any kind of issue.

 

The battery in the Nighthawk is going to last longer than your current phono cartridge.  And probably the one after that...and the one after that...

post #197 of 210

The batteries should last a very long time.  The best thing is that the performance of the phono doesn't deteriorate as the battery loses charge.  This was a concern of mine which I clarified with Ray.  Basically, the phono stage will turn off if the supplied power is not optimum for perfect operation.  There is no loss in sound quality with the battery discharging.  If it is working, it is working perfectly OR it turns off.

 

If the batteries ever need replacing in a few years of heavy usage, send the Nighthawk back to Ray for a quick turnaround.  He'll replace the batteries for you and you are back up and running in no time.  This is a small quirk to deal with for the pitch black background of the Nighthawk.  I love the convenience of a server based computer audio setup, however, I still deal with the quirks of vinyl because it's all about the sound in the end for me :)  Double the quirks with those 45rpm discs where I have to get up ever 10 minutes or so to change the side ;)

post #198 of 210
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Anybody have any comments on how the F-117 compares to the XR-2? I've read that the XR-10B can be upgraded to use the same ICs as the F-117, but what about the XR-2? I know Ray and others here consider it irrational or unjustified, but I still have some concerns about obsolescence and battery powered devices. I'm really tempted by the Nighthawk, but I am just more comfortable with something that can be plugged into a readily available power source for many years to come.

 

Thanks,

 

Andrew

I have the F-117 as well as the XR-2 and I have even had the XR-2 upgraded as noted in the "Enjoy The Music" review of the F-117 to use the same chipset as the F-117.  I would say go for the F-117 and save yourself at least $300 and enjoy the flexibility of it.  As stated throughout the thread, it really is a game changer for its $795 retail price.  The ability to adjust the load and the gain is unheard of.  No more dip switch inside the unit requiring the case to be removed to change.  Also, there is even more flexibility than the dip switches offer.  

 


 


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post #199 of 210

Would a new XR-2 come with the new chipset, or would it have to be upgraded?

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No more dip switch inside the unit requiring the case to be removed to change.  Also, there is even more flexibility than the dip switches offer.  

How many gain settings does the XR-2 offer? The range of adjustments and flexibility offered by the F-117 are appealing and may outweigh my concerns about the battery.
 

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Would a new XR-2 come with the new chipset, or would it have to be upgraded?

 

I just read the enjoythemusic.com review of the F-117 and it says "All new XR-10B or XR-2 phono preamplifiers purchased from now on will incorporate the new ICs that make the F-117 such a great performer."
 

post #201 of 210

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Would a new XR-2 come with the new chipset, or would it have to be upgraded?


I just re-read the review of the F-117 on enjoythemusic.com and it says: "All new XR-10B or XR-2 phono preamplifiers purchased from now on will incorporate the new ICs that make the F-117 such a great performer."

post #202 of 210

I talked with Ray to verify and he indicated newly purchased XR-2s would have the new chips installed.  However, the F-117 is still the one to beat with its control over the gain and loading.  With the XR-2 you only get one gain setting for MC.  The best gain setting can vary with the cartridge.

post #203 of 210
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Dear head-fiers & friends...

This is a new review for the F-117, Nighthawk, phono stage, from Positive Feed Back by Mike Wechsberg...

Please click on the link below...

 

http://positive-feedback.com/Issue49/samuels.htm

 

Ray Samuels

 

 

post #204 of 210
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Hi Friends...

The Senior Editor of PFO, Dave Clark, wrote this short review of the F-117, Nighthawk, Phono Stage....

 

http://positive-feedback.com/Issue49/q.htm

 

Ray Samuels

post #205 of 210
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This review just came out, F-117 is getting a beautiful reviews by the best.

 Johne Hoffman from Positive Feedback on line.

Ray Samuels

 

 

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue50/nighthawk_phonostage.htm

post #206 of 210

Nice review Ray.  I enjoy mine.

post #207 of 210
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Stereotimes review of the F-117, Nighthawk battery operated phono stage.

 

http://www.stereotimes.com/amp081610.shtml

 

Ray Samuels

post #208 of 210
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Stereotimes review of the F-117, Nighthawk battery operated phono stage.

 

http://www.stereotimes.com/amp081610.shtml

 

Ray Samuels


Nice read.  Thanks for the link.

post #209 of 210

Congratulation Ray on the Blue Note Award in the September EJTM Review Magazine.

 

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http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0410/ray_samuels_f_117_nighthawk.htm


Edited by Audio Addict - 9/16/10 at 5:45pm
post #210 of 210
Thread Starter 

 

Here is one more review of the Emmeline F-117, Nighthawk.

The review is by John Zorek from Positive feedback online..

 

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue51/nighthawk.htm

 

Ray Samuels

 

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