I can definitely vouch for the D4 as I have one , i'am very sure the T3 would be very nice too, anyone know what is the rated output power of the T3.
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12/19/09 at 11:39pm
I prefer the T3 to the T3D. The T3 has a bit more open sound, more liquid and there is a slight edge on the high frequency not heard, by me, on the T3D. I really, really like the digital volume control and the way it works and the fact that you really can't accidently change it, like the Shadow, but it gives up a little on the sound. For walking around I like the T3D fine but for sitting down and really hearing well recorded music the T3 has the edge.
i'm still new to the audio equipment scene.. yesterday i just got my T3 and i've been trying it out with my DAP's:
1. sansa clip+ using headphone out --> T3, playing mp3 v0 and flac encoded songs.. 50% volume on clip+ and 6-8 volume with 0 gain on T3
2. iphone 3g using apple universal dock's line out --> T3, playing aac itunes plus encoded songs.. 2-3 volume with 0 gain on T3
yuin OK2 earbuds are used for both setup's.. so far i couldn't really tell the difference with or without the T3 so far.. i understand that the OK2's are easy to drive so it does not benefit much from an amp.. but can someone point out certain things i should try to listen for with/without the T3? (i.e. bass, highs..?)
I would put the Pico and D4 on a higher level than the T3, into what I call my top tier portable amps. Top tier is those amps that seem to have a fuller more complete sound and presentation or refinement, with few compromises heard. Just based on the sound of the amps that I have heard, I include the Pico, Predator, P-51, D4 and D10, Micro Amp, 3MOVE, and XM5 in my top tier amps. (D2 Viper with LM6172 would move from 2nd tier to top tier, but it's discontinued)
I put the iBasso T3, T4, D1, D2, D3, P2, Headsix, Headstage, Vivid V1, Nuforce Icon Mobile in the 2nd tier amp group, which are nice amps but they tend to compromise in one or more areas of sound. The compromise might be in detail and transparency, neutrality, bass presentation (sloppy or weak or boosted), too forward or too recessed in the mids or soundstage, colorations or treble roll-off, etc.
So, within those tiers some are better than others. For most of my ranking you could see my big USB DAC/amp review. Where I put the T3 as an amp in the 2nd tier is with the D3, Headsix, Headstage Lyrix Pro or opamp rolled D1; and a little above the stock D1, stock D2 Viper, D2 Boa, T4, Nuforce or V1. The T3 drops to 2nd tier based on it's detail and transparency vs the top tier amps like Pico, etc, but not based on colorations or frequency response issues.
another great review,
i was thinking about gettin a d4 to compete with my predator for rmy portable dac, how big are they comparatively? which is moer powerful, which do u like more?
D4 is a little more powerful, and really takes off in 9v mode, but the T3 is very close to the D4 5v mode. The D4 is 1/4" wider and about 1" deeper if you count the longer volume knob and the screws that hold the battery cover on the D4. The T3 is tiny in comparsion, with about 1/3 the cubic volume of the Predator (but no DAC). I prefer the D4 by a small margin, but more so with the topkit installed in the D4.
i think the predator sounds alright, but not really with my denon's as much as id like,but im interested in a thicker soundiing dac.
i was about to try the d10, buti worry it may be to big compareed to predator.
if only the d10 had somw preouts