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Lisa III standard vs. Xp vs. LLP vs. no LLP

post #1 of 19
12/3/09 at 12:12pm
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well im about toget this sweet amp, but cant tell if their is a difference between the standard or the Xp model besides battery life???
--i also cant decide weather i should get the Lisa Lab Power, is this a neccessary??? the website just says that if you use a 24 volt charger it may be prone to sonic influxes???
--can you charge the lisa without the llp? does it just take longer? does it just give alot more power? and is it really worth gettin for an extra 300 bucks?
i plan on using this with my audio technica ha25d as a dac ---> Lisa --> dx1000

Tally Ho!
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post #2 of 19
12/3/09 at 1:54pm
you can charge it without the LLP, but most will not let you use the amp at the same time as charging. battery life is indeed the only difference between the 2 portable models. the LLP is not just a charger though, its a high quality power supply and those in the know are aware that clean power supply is important for best sound. when on the LLP the lisa takes it up another notch IMO
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post #3 of 19
12/3/09 at 4:16pm
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you can charge it without the LLP, but most will not let you use the amp at the same time as charging. battery life is indeed the only difference between the 2 portable models. the LLP is not just a charger though, its a high quality power supply and those in the know are aware that clean power supply is important for best sound. when on the LLP the lisa takes it up another notch IMO
nice it sounds like a good investment then, and also im hoping this makes my vinyl sound even better
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post #4 of 19
12/3/09 at 4:22pm
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i am still a bit curious of what other power supply's one could use besides the LLP which would be compatable, mainly because the llp just seems a little big
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post #5 of 19
12/3/09 at 7:04pm
a little big for what?? charging?? up to you mate; there are apparently a couple of elpac chargers that are suitable, but I have never felt the need to find out. I have plenty of regulated power supplies I have DIYed I can use if I feel like using a smaller one, but I have never felt the urge.
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post #6 of 19
12/3/09 at 7:20pm
Another charger is still going to have size and I doubt anything will match the LLP power supply. I can't see the size of the LLP as being a deterrent. If you are going to get a power supply get the best.
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post #7 of 19
12/3/09 at 7:33pm
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does it just give alot more power? and is it really worth gettin for an extra 3000 bucks?
an extra 3000 ? RC, I am definitely opting for the RS - mains-powered from the get go and a steal in comparison !
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post #8 of 19
12/3/09 at 8:24pm
it really is a great PSU, little to no ripple current. plus its adjustable if you for some reason are in need for a clean charge for your toothbrush
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post #9 of 19
12/4/09 at 12:00am

There is

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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
you can charge it without the LLP, but most will not let you use the amp at the same time as charging. battery life is indeed the only difference between the 2 portable models. the LLP is not just a charger though, its a high quality power supply and those in the know are aware that clean power supply is important for best sound. when on the LLP the lisa takes it up another notch IMO
+1

there is a reason why Phil designed the LLP!
Just a perfect match and well worth it.
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post #10 of 19
12/4/09 at 9:51am
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an extra 3000 ? RC, I am definitely opting for the RS - mains-powered from the get go and a steal in comparison !
woops that was a typo i meant 300 extra
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post #11 of 19
12/4/09 at 9:57am
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a little big for what?? charging?? up to you mate; there are apparently a couple of elpac chargers that are suitable, but I have never felt the need to find out. I have plenty of regulated power supplies I have DIYed I can use if I feel like using a smaller one, but I have never felt the urge.
i guess its hard for me to visualiz it unless i see it next to like a cd or something to compare. but it just seems rather large sitting underneath the standard, too often pics come across bigger than they actually are


so you use the LLP? do u know what type of output connector it takes and the type on input connector that the standard takes from a power supply.

thanks
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post #12 of 19
12/4/09 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
you can charge it without the LLP, but most will not let you use the amp at the same time as charging. battery life is indeed the only difference between the 2 portable models. the LLP is not just a charger though, its a high quality power supply and those in the know are aware that clean power supply is important for best sound. when on the LLP the lisa takes it up another notch IMO
I agree, even though I haven't got Lisa XP with the LLP now, Lisa with LLP is better than Lisa with battery power only from my memory.
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post #13 of 19
12/4/09 at 12:37pm

It's not

Not a large footprint at all. They stack nicely.
I don't find a difference with Lisa on/off the LLP, though I use her mainly as a home amp with the LLP but sometimes take her to the office and even then I take the llp with me. I have a nice little bag that fits my phones, cables and Lisa STD setup
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post #14 of 19
12/5/09 at 12:09am
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Originally Posted by RockinCannoisseur View Post
"so you use the LLP? do u know what type of output connector it takes and the type on input connector that the standard takes from a power supply."

thanks
the LISA III std,LISA XP,LISA RS all are connected with a 2.1 MM Coax power cable like THIS
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post #15 of 19
12/5/09 at 3:45am
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the LISA III std,LISA XP,LISA RS all are connected with a 2.1 MM Coax power cable like THIS
sweet thanks ill be needing to pick one up
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