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post #331 of 428
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post
^^ mate you are even deeper in that I am - dangerous dangerous. Keep your hat on okay!
LOL

I don't have the magazine now, but it says good thing about the 1601SS. High resolution, airiness, dynamic...You should buy one too when you come to Japan!

I think I have to audition them again...
post #332 of 428
If either of you are planing to buy the FAD's then you should carefully compare all the 1601 models before deciding. I compared all three at length at Dyna5555. Here are my impressions:

SC: Clearly the most refined of the three, very smooth and clear. Probably the 'fastest' too. But unfortunately, lacking bass fullness compared to the SS & SB.

SS: A little coarse compared to the SC but tiny margin only. But much better bass weight, more forward midrange. Certainly a more balanced sound over-all compared to the SC.
Initially this was the one I wanted to buy; but then chose the SB for the reasons given below.

SB: Again, less refined by a tiny margin over the SS but nothing to complain about at all. If one did not hear the SS or SC then one would not notice that. A bit less upper-bass weight and less forward midrange compared to SS... but... and this is the crucial 'but'... the bass extension was clearly deeper than the SS. I could hear the bass roll off earlier on the SS, the SB went very deep. I also found it more transparent than the SS in the bass regions. But what most tipped it in my favour was the fact that it was also more musical than the SS, it simply played tunes that much better than the SS, whatever the instrument. The SB's just sounded 'right'.

Finally, just to make sure it was not a sample-to-sample variation I was hearing, I compared the SS & SB at Yodobashi as well. The differences between the two were identical to what I heard at Dyna5555. And so that's why I chose the SB over the SS.
post #333 of 428
^ shig won't like that.
post #334 of 428
If I am correct the only one shigzeo didn't try was the SB?

@firoze, very nice appetizer!
post #335 of 428
^^ If I'm not mstaken, Shig only has them on loan for review, does not yet own them, so no need for him to feel bad
Anyway it's a pity he did not get to hear the SB, it would have been good to know his impression as well about the comparitive differences between them.
post #336 of 428
By the way, I've kept my SB's continuously playing music 24hrs a day. Around 120hrs in all so far, and they are still breaking-in. Every evening when I come home from office and they listen to them, they sound even better. So I'm going to let them play on for a few more days till I'm certain they have settled down before posting my impressions. In my case, until 10hrs of play they sounded flat. The next big step was at 100hrs. This was when they really came into their own - the sound became so much more three dimensional.
post #337 of 428
Well, I am contemplating a purchase - we will see. I will be in Tokyo next week and would like to demo the SB also. We will see! If so, time to sell my old DAPs!

Saying that, I'd probably go for the SB because of price and the only difference being the housing, but I love the SS to pieces, especially when EQ'd - to pieces. In fact, the only thing which keeps me listening to my DT880 600Ω over it with certain music is: impedance - I cannot reasonably use it with my home amps.
post #338 of 428
^ Thats great news, would love to hear ur impressions of the SB vs SS.

By the way, at Dyna5555 their SS & SC are fitted with the metal tips while the SB has the silicone tips. Because of language limitations I could not make the staff understand that I wanted to audition the SB's with the metal tips too, so what I did was use the SC's metal tips on the SB's. However not to leave anything to chance, I also heard the SB's with the SS's metal tips just to assure myself that the different metal composition of th tips didn't make a difference. In the event, the tips sounded the same. Just thought I'd let u know, since you're going there
post #339 of 428
I hope to go there. It's Akihabara? I'll be making a stop there, so I might be able to, but I'm going for a mate's wedding and may not have as much time as I thought originally.
post #340 of 428
^ Yes Dyna5555 (also called Dynamic Audio) is in Akihabara. If you're short of time then this is the only you should go to for auditioning. The staff there is very happy for you to sit with the earphones & listen at length. Ask for all three 1601 models. They are kept behind the cashier's counter. However they didn't have stock when I was there so I bought them from Yodobashi in Akibhara (which is on the other side of the station). The prices are the same. Incidently, Yodobashi accepted US$ and gave a good exchange rate. The SB was ¥59,800, I paid $660.
post #341 of 428
$$660 is too much for a universal earphone,I still can't absorb it considering it's limitations.
post #342 of 428
Well, considering I have no US$, Korean Won, Japanese ¥, or anything, it could be a fun jaunt down to Dynamic Audio. Maybe they'll take a trade in on ... something. I'll rustle up the funds especially if the SB is really good.
post #343 of 428
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I was experimenting with tips on the SB - Sony (from the EX700), Sennheiser (from the IE8), and the ones that came with the FAD. My favorites are the plain silicone ones from FAD (medium size). Compared to everything else, it brings the bass out the best. The ported silicone ones from FAD are much more bass light. Both Senns sounded pretty much the same (close to the FAD, just slightly less bass), and the Sonys were in the middle soundwise.

firoze - Glad you made a choice you like. I didn't have a ton of time to audition like you did, but after hearing the SBs, I really didn't need to hear the other ones. Maybe the "budget" (and I use that term VERY loosely) ones of the 1601 line are better in some ways since we've both heard the same thing.
post #344 of 428
It's funny how we each find something to like with the tips. Personally, I don't enjoy the sound as much with tips, though very low density foams are good. I use them however, only to hold them in place.
post #345 of 428
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Originally Posted by FenderP View Post
I was experimenting with tips on the SB - ....My favorites are the plain silicone ones from FAD (medium size). Compared to everything else, it brings the bass out the best.

firoze - Glad you made a choice you like. I didn't have a ton of time to audition like you did, but after hearing the SBs, I really didn't need to hear the other ones. Maybe the "budget" (and I use that term VERY loosely) ones of the 1601 line are better in some ways since we've both heard the same thing.
Thanks! I've also been experimenting a little with tips, but really, I need to wait for the SB's to fully run in first.

As for the selecting the SB's over the SS, I'm glad I had a second chance to audition them - on my first trip to Akihabara, I was seduced by the more forward mid and upper-bass of the SS and would probably have bought them. However there was something about the SS vs SB nagging me at the back of my mind. But since I was already a bit disoriented with listening so many different earphones that day (SC, SS, SB, e-Q7, Fx-700, CK100, IE7, IE8, Monster etc) and since I also knew that I would be coming back in a couple of days, I didn't buy them that day. Then on my next trip I concentrated only on the e-Q7, SS & SB. Loved the e-Q7's but in the end, for me, it was no match for the FAD's. So then I spent the next 45mins listening only to the SS & SB and finally decided on the SB for the reasons mentioned in my earlier post.
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