2nd ps1000 jackpot, i am with zanth!

ok i am eating major crow now. my first pair was obviously bad. exemplified by their early demise. qc is apparently a major issue on these.

that being said. once you get a good one, oh my freaking.....
these things walk all over every headphone i have/heard. all the way up to, and not stopping at the he90!

i just wonder if all the people that thought these sounded "bad" in one way or another have heard a bad pair. i heard a bad pair at a store today! nothing like my new ones.

my new ones were "crackling" a little in the first 4 hours. that is gone. all that is left is sound that is like a microscope into the music. it is the highest fidelity and clarity i have ever heard. that includes loudspeakers. putting my alexandria v2 to shame imo! holy smokes!

as far as bad ones, when i thought the beyers were better last week that was based on my original pair. i wonder if the op in that post had heard bad ones as well.

there appear to be many examples of the ps1000. all the way from dead to beyond stellar. including everything in between, sadly.

so, the only real issue with these is if you are lucky to get the right pair. it's a huge gamble. i guess i just won the lottery!

i'd also like to take a moment to apologize to zanth for bashing them so much around here. what he has said about them is not even enough praise imo! he obviously got "the right pair" as well. it is unfortunate that many people will never realise what these really can be. i imagine grado will work with anyone to make it right but it takes time.

also, a key factor to enjoying(and not destroying) these is to listen at low to moderate volume levels. high volume is not their friend. if you get a good pair and listen quietly you then can realise their full potential.

i figure their are people that given a good pair, they still will not be their cup of tea. everyones hearing is different.

i had stopped liking my gs1000. which many may remember caused me to almost leave here. i thought at the time they were the last word in headphones. all i can gather is at some point those became ruined as well. i pray that my ps1000 stay the way they are now for a long time to come. or get even better with break in. which i cannot even fathom.

in summary, other than gambling on grados qc i feel these are nirvana. as always,ymmv! this is just my "reformed" opinion. to those that wish to take the gamble, or can hear them in person i feel it is well worth the trouble.

music_man

my first pair sounded literally like $50 headphones, i was very dissapointed. i even likened them to bose. i seem to remember being quite outspoken about this. then....death. to one driver. i heard a pair today that sounded about the same. the new ones are just terrific. so obviously there are bad ones that are not dead. i would honestly say they sounded a lot like a sony v600. not at all what i expected.

the new ones are night and day. i am supposing this is how they are when they are working properly. not that i got a "special" pair. i assume they all are supposed to be like my new one.

the prat,liquidity,resolution,depth,imaging,accuracy is the best i have ever heard.

i know of the few people that have both, they tend to prefer the hd800. i do not at this time. i have a/b'd them for an hour and the hd800 is just too polite and blah. the ps1000 gives me the emotion of a live performance. or in the case of a studio recording i can even hear things that probably aren't even meant to be heard on normal euipment but the mic's picked it up. the engineers probably didn't even know with their equipment in the studio! besides that the sound is like- holographic. where other headphones have up/down and out headstage these just envelope me. it may just be my personal preference indeed but i love these. i know few people do. it does make me wonder if they got properly working ones though. since the one today did not sound like a v600 maybe more like a k240. i don't really mean speciffically those headphones but i do mean along those lines. not super hi-fi. very weird. i am very happy now. i am sorry i ever bashed them. i do want people to know to make sure they got what they payed for though. if you can imagine them as a sub $500 headphone i think you may have received a faulty pair. as did i.

music_man

kernmac, unfortunately it is well known that "grado quality control is utterly abysmal" as you put it. that is the explanation for this. it is also as you put it not good pair, bad pair. more like apparently a whole lot of defective pairs out there. mine lasted 3 hours. piotr ryka's pair lasted a little longer and so on. before mine actually bit the dust they sounded like poop. if you receive headphones that sound like they cost $50 and not $1,700 that is probably an indicator they are on the way to the graveyard anyhow.

before anyone says a pair of these suck make sure you are not dealing with a defective pair. i was willing to deal with this as are many others. the arguement has been made over and again that their qc,cs and even packaging is abusrd for this price. once your happy, your happy. it is a hard bargain though.

music_man

it's ironic that only the most expensive ones die. what i wanted people to know is that they can become "ill" as well. with no apparent signs of "illness" other than sounding like inexpensive phones. they do not sound distorted or blown in the normal fashion. that is what this post was about. not bashing them. please keep this post nice, as everyone has thus far.

if you review a pair and they don't sound good ,or sound cheap then you may have a faulty pair. i want them to get the reviews they deserve(outstanding).

everything is about the hd800 here. these are not very popular. i don't know if it is because of the bad press on the qc around here. or the price. or something else.

i have read in other posts they were "ringing" or sounded "funny" or something else. these things are not supposed to be. they do not simply sound bad. when they are working(to me and a few others) they sound amazing.

even this pair required a little surgery here and there. as i mentioned elsewhere. this is par for the game with "elite" apparently. i for one am willing to deal with it. now that i have witnessed them in their full glory. the most expensive ferrari's are very temperamental. the more pedestrian models are somewhat reliable. again, it should be surmised as the nature of products at this pinnacle of the cutting edge(imho). i for one am not upset or bewildered in the least.

music_man