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post #76 of 106
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Originally Posted by Eagle_Driver View Post
On most consumer sources and amps, they sound very bright and a bit shrill. But on a higher-end amp, the bass tends to become fuller. The midrange is very good on these headphones. In other words, the CD2000 is one highly sensitive (efficient) headphone which requires the use of the right amp in order to sound its best.
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You won't believe how good the CD2000 is until you plug it into a right setup. The drivers of the CD2000 are so sensitive that I can hear differences of sounds on the left and right channels, even at a low volume level.

Using the Metric Halo ULN-2 and the CD2000 (driven by a decent SS amp) reminded us of the ATH-L3000's details and bass quality with better transparency.

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post #77 of 106
My comment on the CD2000 was based on the impression taken from reviews of many senior headfiers from years past. I have never had a pleasure of owning the CD2000 or listening to them. I, however, was one of the early adopter of the CD1700 and CD3000 back in 2001 so I'm very familiar with those two. I still wish I kept my CD3000
post #78 of 106
Love the way this thread is turning into a procession of people who wished they still had the CD3000.
Actually I sold an F1 a couple of months ago,and now regret it,Sony have some weird and wonderful phones that grow on you.
post #79 of 106
That's why I still have 2 CD3K and one F1.
post #80 of 106
Yes the F1,the forgotten phone,what a shame.
I should have tried the SA5000 drivers for fit in them before selling.
post #81 of 106
ok, great! my 1 year old pads are starting to flake! I guess a 3 days old beard is a big no-no w/ these pads

shave daily or fear the consequences! so take it in account for the cd3k(if you wear a beard on purpose, forget it )...its two drawbacks to me are 1)weight, the cups are damn heavy(can't imagine the headphile treatment) 2)the pads need you to keep a baby skin, otherwise the mix of sweat+beard will let them desintegrate sooner that you'd think
post #82 of 106
Just out of curiosity.
Can some of you name the similarities and the differences between the CD1700 and the CD3000?
post #83 of 106

Sony CD3000 CD2000 CD1700 + Metric Halo ULN-2

I just had a chance to try the CD3000 CD2000 and CD1700 driven by my Metric Halo ULN-2.

The CD3000 sounds so fantastic and very pleasing !! IMHO, it is one of the best headphones you can find.

It falls between the CD2000 (*very* detailed, fast and extended) and the CD1700 (lovely vocal, airy, wider sound stage). In short, the CD3000 combines the best of the other two cans.

I agree with a friend of mine that the CD2000 with the ULN-2 offers the same bass quality of the ATH-L3000 while the CD3000 can match the rest. I sold my HD800 because of the CD2000 + the ULN-2.

The internal headamp of the ULN-2, opmamps-based, isn't the best one. IMHO, the CD3000 + the ULN-2 + decent interconnect cables (like the Oritek X-2) + a decent headamp is a reference headphones system.

If you have a chance, just try the CD3000 with a Metric Halo DAC and you'll be landed at the audiophile "heaven".
LL
post #84 of 106
cd1700 has a wider SS than cd3k

yes, the cd3k scales really well w/ source/amp improvements
post #85 of 106
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cd1700 has a wider SS than cd3k :confused
The CD3000 has a wider sound stage than the CD1700's. However, it expands more on both left and right sides. In addition, higher clarity (approaching the CD2000's) makes the CD3000's notes more focused. Then the sound stage becomes clearer, hence perceived as a wider SS.

The owner of the CD3000, who is a trumpet player, has also confirmed this impression. He's never realized how excellent the CD3000 is until he tried it with a decent source + headamp.
post #86 of 106
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However, it expands more on both left and right sides.
what's "it" exactly? is there any point to you to get a cd1700 when you already own a cd3k? many ppl say that the cd1700 is much warmer w/ a much narrower SS
post #87 of 106
How does the Sony CD3000 compare to the Sony MDR V6?
post #88 of 106
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How does the Sony CD3000 compare to the Sony MDR V6?
It isn't a fair compairison. The CD3k is a much better headphones than the V6. The V6 has brighter and harsher presentation with more recessed mid. The CD3k, OTOH, has much nicer soundstage, including better details and much nicer midrange qualities.

Bordin,

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The CD3000 has a wider sound stage than the CD1700's. However, it expands more on both left and right sides. In addition, higher clarity (approaching the CD2000's) makes the CD3000's notes more focused. Then the sound stage becomes clearer, hence perceived as a wider SS.

The owner of the CD3000, who is a trumpet player, has also confirmed this impression. He's never realized how excellent the CD3000 is until he tried it with a decent source + headamp.
IMO, both the CD3000 and CD1700 have similar width in soundstage, but thanks to better driver design on the CD3k...you can hear more deeper into the soundstage. When compared them side by side, the CD3000 makes the CD1700 a bit muffled. I also think that the CD3k is bright while the CD1.7k is darker tonally.

If you manage to land the CD3000, why don't you upgrade the cable on them? The silver dragon cable upgraded made such worthwhile improvements on my old pair.
post #89 of 106
Just curious for I never knew of the CD 3000 in the first place. The best headphones I have are my MDR V6's.
post #90 of 106
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Just curious for I never knew of the CD 3000 in the first place. The best headphones I have are my MDR V6's.
The V6 is indeed great buy under for under $100 plus it will last forever. Once you start comparing the V6 with better headphones you will hear its weaknesses.
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