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post #166 of 281
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Originally Posted by Octavaryum View Post
I'm going to ignore the idiocy that this thread has descended into.

Personally, I dislike iTunes because of the way it lays out music. I loved Winamp's default interface, but I had a bunch of problems with it so I ended up customizing Foobar to be similar to Winamp. I also don't have an iPod, so I have no real incentive to use iTunes.

iTunes default layout just bugs me. I have a lot of music, making scrolling down through artists just irritating. Having an Artists, then an Album 'window' is just necessary to me for a player. I don't know if iTunes has changed since I last used it (several years ago), but it didn't seem to have anything going for it vs. the competition.
comes down to different strokes for different folks i guess, Maybe i dont have as much music as you do, but i dont like those artist and album windows taking up UI space, i prefer the way iTunes does it with one list and a search bar.
post #167 of 281
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Originally Posted by Octavaryum View Post
I'm going to ignore the idiocy that this thread has descended into.

Personally, I dislike iTunes because of the way it lays out music. I loved Winamp's default interface, but I had a bunch of problems with it so I ended up customizing Foobar to be similar to Winamp. I also don't have an iPod, so I have no real incentive to use iTunes.

iTunes default layout just bugs me. I have a lot of music, making scrolling down through artists just irritating. Having an Artists, then an Album 'window' is just necessary to me for a player. I don't know if iTunes has changed since I last used it (several years ago), but it didn't seem to have anything going for it vs. the competition.
This is not for you since you seem to have found sanctuary in your current choice of player, but for those others who may be reading this. iTunes doesn't have to be about scrolling through an endless list. This is very misleading of the current offering.

- I use the 'search as you type' feature a lot. Works beautifully.
- There are smart playlists that dynamically include new stuff depending on the criteria you set. It's like a dynamic filter if you will.
- There's the column browser
- There's grid view

All offer ways in which to get very quickly to what you want. Of course, all apps are different, and will offer their own ways of managing very large collections. Mine is 236GB in size and on an external drive for those mentioning issues with external driver. I'd go bunkers if all I could do was scroll endlessly to find stuff.
post #168 of 281
FORCED UPGRADES. THEY ARE CRIMINAL. So you upgrade your itunes anyway, takes an hour, then you suddenly also have to upgrade your quicktime. Another two hours. Then NOW you also have to upgrade your safari. It's just so wrong. For people with slow internet I swear it can cause heart attack scale-frustration.

I am a Mac person but Itunes along with iphoto are just shameful in the many ways they try to force the user into using them. It's microsoft all over again.
post #169 of 281
^ One (1) hour do update iTunes, then two (2) hours for QuickTime. Wow!
You must be either sitting on an awfully slow computer and/or behind a really slow intern connection. All done in 5 minutes for me . . .

No updates are forced on you either. You have ALWAYS the option turning software update off, or deny the installation.
post #170 of 281
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Originally Posted by spinneresque View Post
FORCED UPGRADES. THEY ARE CRIMINAL. So you upgrade your itunes anyway, takes an hour, then you suddenly also have to upgrade your quicktime. Another two hours. Then NOW you also have to upgrade your safari. It's just so wrong. For people with slow internet I swear it can cause heart attack scale-frustration.

I am a Mac person but Itunes along with iphoto are just shameful in the many ways they try to force the user into using them. It's microsoft all over again.
Like any other update, you don't have to do them unless they're relevant to you. There's a Mac in my house now running Tiger and whose iTunes hasn't been updated in ages. It still works. The perception is so hopelessly flawed in some cases.
post #171 of 281
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Originally Posted by Octavaryum View Post
iTunes default layout just bugs me. I have a lot of music, making scrolling down through artists just irritating. Having an Artists, then an Album 'window' is just necessary to me for a player. I don't know if iTunes has changed since I last used it (several years ago), but it didn't seem to have anything going for it vs. the competition.
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Originally Posted by Ham Sandwich View Post
Has anyone mentioned yet that iTunes is horrid at managing a library that contains both classical and popular (non-classical) music?
Probably having to do with the "Compilations" aspect of iTunes, where it will take any "Album" that tags multiple "Artists" and put in a separate place, separate even from "all" "Artists". I have gotten used to this feature myself, but it has taken years.

You can turn "Compilations" off when iTunes is handling library organization, like many of the default features I read people complaining about here, in the iTunes "Preferences" section, hidden un-intuitively in the "edit" menu on the Windows version.

One of the things that annoys me about iTunes now is that I have to immediately change the way it displays back to the way I want it upon new installs, which is in "list" form with the browser on top. That's the way iTunes was in the earlier versions, and it's the best way to handle a large library IME.

My point though is that iTunes is not as rigid as it is portrayed in many posts here, and is in fact quite customizable in many areas.

One thing for sure is that Apple does nothing by accident, so the way everything is laid out is because they think we either want it that way (the majority anyways; trying to attract more Windows users IMO), or because they think it will drive us to their on-line content store
post #172 of 281
it has the easiest GUI anyone can use. yes, it sucks on PC. but on Mac it's a beauty and the BEST software for ease of use. i tried foobar2000, the GUI is atrocious. don't know how anyone can use that crap.
post #173 of 281
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Originally Posted by FUZZBALL View Post
i tried foobar2000, the GUI is atrocious. don't know how anyone can use that crap.
It's customizable, and some of us don't like to be leashed. -_-
post #174 of 281
iTunes is good enough for me on a Mac. I just hate that it can't play FLAC natively. I have to use Max to convert them to WAV or AIFF. Plus, the default equalizer adds a boatload of distortion. Other than that, it fits my needs. I guess I'm just too lazy to find a replacement program.
post #175 of 281
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Originally Posted by Hybrys View Post
It's customizable, and some of us don't like to be leashed. -_-
We all have our leashes. Don't be too cocky.

It's good to know about your leash, because if you don't, you're really lost.
post #176 of 281
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Originally Posted by Cru321 View Post
iTunes is good enough for me on a Mac. I just hate that it can't play FLAC natively. I have to use Max to convert them to WAV or AIFF. Plus, the default equalizer adds a boatload of distortion. Other than that, it fits my needs. I guess I'm just too lazy to find a replacement program.
Been using Max for several years; it's a godsend. Though I rip/convert everything to ALAC myself...my ears (& current equipment) can't tell the difference between AIFF & ALAC.
post #177 of 281
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Originally Posted by aimlink View Post
We all have our leashes. Don't be too cocky.

It's good to know about your leash, because if you don't, you're really lost.
I would like to claim self defense. <_<
post #178 of 281
Is there any possible way to get iTunes to sort only by file structure and file name, and not by tag? And then also for me to have separate playlists?

Last time i tried it, i never found out how to do either particularly well, and that really limits me to the point that i have never had any music on my iphone because it is simply too annoying to add
post #179 of 281
ehh, since I don't use the store, there are just independently made alternatives that trump it in every way
post #180 of 281
^iTunes will prioritize sorting by tags. If there are no tags, then it will use filenames.

You can definitely make separate playlists.

Are you using Windows or a Mac? If you're using a Mac, then we can likely work things out. If you're using Windows, why not try something else since iTunes for Windows doesn't work that well it would seem.
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