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post #151 of 281
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Originally Posted by bowraboy View Post
A lot of people (usually Windows users) seems to think the more mucking around you have to do to get something done is better and it makes them feel superior because they can get it to work.

I love iTunes but I am a Mac user.
Equivalent I could say you're blissfully ignorant to features that you might appreciate but aren't served up to you on a platter for a micro transaction by your deity Steve Jobs.

Either one is arrogantly assertive and has no place in a civilized discussion.
post #152 of 281
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Originally Posted by fenixdown110 View Post
But I like mucking around.
Then you really ought to try Linux. ::nonplussed_smilie::
post #153 of 281
I see where you're going. lol I don't like to muck around that much.
post #154 of 281
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Originally Posted by bowraboy View Post
A lot of people (usually Windows users) seems to think the more mucking around you have to do to get something done is better and it makes them feel superior because they can get it to work.

I love iTunes but I am a Mac user.
Macs and iTunes are user friendly and work fine, but both are FAR from optimized in any sense of the word. If you don't care about performance then there's no reason for you to deal with windows, open source or any highly customizable platforms...

...they ARE superior though (in every objective sense) if you have the time and knowledge needed to tweak them
post #155 of 281
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Originally Posted by jawang View Post
Macs and iTunes are user friendly and work fine, but both are FAR from optimized in any sense of the word. If you don't care about performance then there's no reason for you to deal with windows, open source or any highly customizable platforms...

...they ARE superior though (in every objective sense) if you have the time and knowledge needed to tweak them
In your opinion, its really not objective at all. I can get bit perfect output, will almost zero effort, the same can not be said of windows...i dont see where you are going with this. Is yours somehow better because you wasted more time than i had to to get an equivilant result?

and id like you to find a computer engineer that thinks windows is better than the UNIX like base OSX is built on. OSX might be simpler on the surface than windows, but that doesnt mean you cant fiddle to your hearts content in the terminal window....all that and we dont have an archaic registry
post #156 of 281
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Originally Posted by RedSky0 View Post
Equivalent I could say you're blissfully ignorant to features that you might appreciate but aren't served up to you on a platter for a micro transaction by your deity Steve Jobs.
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post
In your opinion, its really not objective at all. I can get bit perfect output, will almost zero effort, the same can not be said of windows...i dont see where you are going with this. Is yours somehow better because you wasted more time than i had to to get an equivilant result?

and id like you to find a computer engineer that thinks windows is better than the UNIX like base OSX is built on. OSX might be simpler on the surface than windows, but that doesnt mean you cant fiddle to your hearts content in the terminal window....all that and we dont have an archaic registry
This thing called ignorance....
post #157 of 281
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post
In your opinion, its really not objective at all. I can get bit perfect output, will almost zero effort, the same can not be said of windows...i dont see where you are going with this. Is yours somehow better because you wasted more time than i had to to get an equivilant result?

and id like you to find a computer engineer that thinks windows is better than the UNIX like base OSX is built on. OSX might be simpler on the surface than windows, but that doesnt mean you cant fiddle to your hearts content in the terminal window....all that and we dont have an archaic registry
almost any player can get bit perfect output. foobar can do it with fewer system resources. with some tweaking, it can do it with MUCH fewer resources. foobar can also be customized to do more things, and run a wider range of DSPs (including all DSPs that iTunes has).

as for finding a computer engineer that thinks windows is better than OSX, I can show you at least one (me). I really don't want to start an OSX debate though, anyone who cares about this can easily google some information and form their own opinion
post #158 of 281
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Originally Posted by jawang View Post
almost any player can get bit perfect output. foobar can do it with fewer system resources. with some tweaking, it can do it with MUCH fewer resources. foobar can also be customized to do more things, and run a wider range of DSPs (including all DSPs that iTunes has).

as for finding a computer engineer that thinks windows is better than OSX, I can show you at least one (me). I really don't want to start an OSX debate though, anyone who cares about this can easily google some information and form their own opinion
Sure, but what about the optical digital output.... I was quite pleased to simply go out and purchase an optical cable. It's a little more than just the player when the discussion becomes a little wider and it's now about the platform as a device for streaming music.

The importance of the player is being blown way too much out of proportion.
post #159 of 281
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Originally Posted by jawang View Post
as for finding a computer engineer that thinks windows is better than OSX, I can show you at least one (me). I really don't want to start an OSX debate though, anyone who cares about this can easily google some information and form their own opinion
OSX is awesome for what it does... Photos, videos, and media mediocrely really simply. That said, I love being able to tinker with options and settings and get an optimal output. And that customizability alone makes Windows/Linux superior... For a power user, and no-one else.

Now enough with the stupid bickering from your respective fanboy camps.
post #160 of 281
Isn't "stupid bickering from your respective fanboy camps" the point of this entire thread ?
post #161 of 281
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Originally Posted by grokit View Post
Isn't "stupid bickering from your respective fanboy camps" the point of this entire thread ?
Yes. That is the not so subtle point of the thread.

Has anyone mentioned yet that iTunes is horrid at managing a library that contains both classical and popular (non-classical) music?
post #162 of 281
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Originally Posted by Ham Sandwich View Post
Yes. That is the not so subtle point of the thread.

Has anyone mentioned yet that iTunes is horrid at managing a library that contains both classical and popular (non-classical) music?
Care to elaborate?
post #163 of 281
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Originally Posted by Ham Sandwich View Post
Yes. That is the not so subtle point of the thread.

Has anyone mentioned yet that iTunes is horrid at managing a library that contains both classical and popular (non-classical) music?
yeah i dont see that either, elaborate?
post #164 of 281
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post
yeah i dont see that either, elaborate?
Composer field issues, I'd bet.
post #165 of 281
I'm going to ignore the idiocy that this thread has descended into.

Personally, I dislike iTunes because of the way it lays out music. I loved Winamp's default interface, but I had a bunch of problems with it so I ended up customizing Foobar to be similar to Winamp. I also don't have an iPod, so I have no real incentive to use iTunes.

iTunes default layout just bugs me. I have a lot of music, making scrolling down through artists just irritating. Having an Artists, then an Album 'window' is just necessary to me for a player. I don't know if iTunes has changed since I last used it (several years ago), but it didn't seem to have anything going for it vs. the competition.
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