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post #31 of 176
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Originally Posted by RockinCannoisseur View Post
maybe i shall have to do a third review on these cks70, but their recessed highs ruined the signature
This is the strange feeling I'm getting when I'm using the cks70's on my S739, with about 10 hours of burn in now.

I know, coming from the RE0's, that these are pretty unbalanced earphones. They aren't terrible, but in terms of instrument seperation, clarity, etc, they are no match for the RE0's. In fact the CKS70's remind me of better versions of my old sony EX-85's. I find it difficult to listen to them without EQing them quite drastically - cutting back some of the mid-bass, upping the mids, upping the highest treble ranges (while avoiding raising 6khz because of the noticeable sibilance.) I'm hoping what dweaver says about the mids/highs clearing up around 80hrs is true, because right now they are really obviously nowhere near as resolving as the RE0's at the other end of the scale.

However, the funny thing is, that these are really, terrifically enjoyable to listen to once you've played around with the EQ. The bass response all the way down to the bottom seems to give all my music a new sort of 'floor', giving everything from vocals to electronic beats a really full, dynamic sound. Cello's in particular were the big standout differences for me.

As others have noticed, they make my RE0's sound anaemic in comparison - even when they have been EQ'ed.

At this point I'm really wondering if I'm enjoying these a lot because it's a new novelty to actually have some bass, or because they are good. All I can say is that AT's sub-bass chamber configuration really delivers, in a way that is quite controlled and punchy. I wonder if AT coupled this design with some really high end dynamic drivers, and really engineered for a high end 'audiophile' grade IEM, what wonderful IEM they would produce. (And yes, the big bold "SOLID BASS" and "OVERWHELMING BASS" stickers on the CKS70 packaging is what suggests to me that the target market for these IEM's is not high end.)
post #32 of 176
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I do believe these are very good IEM's for the buck but they are still mid-fi as are any headphone I have listened to in this price range. The thing for me is mid-fi usually mean compromise. In the case of these phones the compromise is massive bass and soundstage at the cost of the mids and highs. The Klipsch had better highs but at the cost of some sibilance and lower soundstage and obviosly not as much bass.

I do have to say these are the least AT sounding headphone I have ever listened to. They really do remind me of Sennheiser headphones. I also have to say I may be liking the novelty of massive bass that actually sounds good. But if you have anything less than 30 hours on these, the bass is actually not settled down yet and the mids and highs don't start to come into their stride until around the 80 hour mark.

One last thing, these sound good unamped but a nice analytical amp realy does do them wonders.
post #33 of 176
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post
One last thing, these sound good unamped but a nice analytical amp realy does do them wonders.
Well then I really look forward to hearing them paired up with my Sony X and new ALO Rx amp (since analytical and detailed is exactly what it is in the mids through treble). It's amazing how much more bass the Rx adds into the mix too, and I wind up having to tweak it down one notch from where I normally listen on a couple of my phones, particularly the S4. I know I know.... me? ...notch the bass down?? Ha ha ha.... Wonder what this will do with the CKS70's!
post #34 of 176
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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post
Well then I really look forward to hearing them paired up with my Sony X and new ALO Rx amp (since analytical and detailed is exactly what it is in the mids through treble). It's amazing how much more bass the Rx adds into the mix too, and I wind up having to tweak it down one notch from where I normally listen on a couple of my phones, particularly the S4. I know I know.... me? ...notch the bass down?? Ha ha ha.... Wonder what this will do with the CKS70's!
LOL I have tweaked the settings a few times and for some music turning down the bass doe help especially with my amp. The mids and highs really do benefitfrom the type of amp I own.

Well having sold off some gear. I now have enough money to get a pair of Senn HD600's so my next great experiment will be a pair of those when they arrive. I hope they fit the bill in regards to an open version of these plus I will be able to A/B test these against the Senn's to really guage if these have a similar sound signature to them. It's crazy an AT IEM finalyy made me bite the bullet and try a Senn LOL.
post #35 of 176
I just ordered a pair of these to compete in a deathmatch with my Turbines. The winner becomes my new IEM of choice and loser promptly gets sold.

Just when I thought I'd FINALLY settled on a decent portable rig, too. Damn this site.
post #36 of 176
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Originally Posted by Stickyfoot View Post

Just when I thought I'd FINALLY settled on a decent portable rig, too. Damn this site.
You're not alone on this front....
post #37 of 176
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Originally Posted by Stickyfoot View Post
I just ordered a pair of these to compete in a deathmatch with my Turbines. The winner becomes my new IEM of choice and loser promptly gets sold.

Just when I thought I'd FINALLY settled on a decent portable rig, too. Damn this site.
GROAN, I'm scared to tell my wife about the HD600 I just bought after selling off a bunch of gear LOL. This site just kills me
post #38 of 176
I have read that the Atrio M5's are IEM bass kings (so to speak). Has anyone compared these to the Atrios? I'm thinking about getting a pair of these from accesoryjack. I love IEMs with lots of bass and sound stage. It sounds like these fit the bill.
post #39 of 176
Okay, I think I've hit the 80 hours of burn in mark (60 hours at least), and I'd agree that the Mids and the Highs improve. Everything sounds a lot cleaner, though I don't know how much of that is due to my tweaking of the EQ settings. To give you an idea though, on my Sony S739 EQ is:

Clear Bass: +1 (Yes, I wanted more bass. Only because it is hilariously fun to listen to this much bass on an IEM.)
0.4 kHz: +0
1.0 kHz: +1
2.5 kHz: +2
6.3 kHz: +1 (any more than this and they sound sibilant.)
16 kHz: +3

While this isn't exactly balanced it sounds dynamic and fun. Without EQ, they still sound very muffled and dislocated.
post #40 of 176
Anyone bought these earphones from ebay? There are a few sellers but don't know which one to choose. Btw, do the fake versions of cks70's exist? Any danger on ebay about that?
post #41 of 176
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They are pretty new and not very expensive so I doubt there will be any fakes of these yet. I got mine from accessoryjack.com for a great price and their shipping was reasonable and super fast so I would check them out before Ebay unless the ebay prices are better.

I find these sound muffled a bit from my Ipod and I turn up the treble to fix that. But with my headphone amp they sound a ton better so I don't have to do anything with the EQ. They are not the best IEM's on the market but I think are very good for the main qualities I listed in my original post. One thing I really do like about them is that they respond to EQ very well. The thing I like most about these is how fatigue free they are compared to my other gear.
post #42 of 176
Thanks for the info. Price is great and $10 for shipping to Turkey is reasonable.
post #43 of 176
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Glad I could help, I have bought to ATH products from accessoryjack.com and will do so again in the future.
post #44 of 176
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Just added some final updates to my impression at the start of the thread to sum up my experience with the CKS70.

I now bounce between doing a treble boost and listening to these with no EQ. The treble boost definitely helps with some of my music but I un-EQed these are simply easy on my ears from a fatigue perspective. BTW turning down the bass also helps if your finding the bass overwhelming especially at louder volumes. They really do respond well to EQ.
post #45 of 176
Any recommended amp for cks70?
To me, I think these headphones are execellent for trance,
but for metal...
Im pretty sure a decent amp would be a excellent compliment.

Suggestions!?
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