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post #31 of 53
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post
If I were you, Larry, I'd wait until after the holiday to ship it regardless. Having a shipment started, interrupted by a holiday, then resumed just begs for problems. On something as nice as a WES I'd rather it follow normal continuous shipping operations.
x2!
post #32 of 53
X3 and I would also want them to ship in the correct packing in the event there is a damage claim!
post #33 of 53
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Originally Posted by bozebuttons View Post
We where ,Giants almost blew the game ,Jets plain sucked
The Giants tried to give the game to the Falcons but they just wouldn't accept the Giants' generosity.

J-E-T-S - Just End The Season

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I could live with any of the three & be very Happy
Why pick one when you can own all three!

Well, it might be hard to get your hands on a KBBH (Kerry Built Blue Hawaii).
post #34 of 53
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
Standard budget version. My understanding though is the tubes alone are $700. It also doesn't have SE inputs, just a pair of XLR inputs and RCA loop-outs (the development WES).
Is the $700 for the stock tubes or did they upgrade the ones in the prototype? If that's for the stock tubes, they are probably some really good tubes.
post #35 of 53
On the Woo website there is an option to upgrade the power tubes for $640.
post #36 of 53
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Originally Posted by bozebuttons View Post
Three great amps ,preference & headphones used would make which one to buy.
I could live with any of the three & be very Happy
I was just wondering Tom, how does your original HE 90 amp sound, compared to these modern day creations?
post #37 of 53
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Originally Posted by erikzen View Post
On the Woo website there is an option to upgrade the power tubes for $640.
They cost $100 less if you buy them directly from Grant Fidelity
post #38 of 53
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@Larry. I have your amp and p/s cushioned real nice (italian expression from the Sopranos) together in a Samsonite rolling carry-on (not suitable for shipping) I'd have to rebox them for you, Kove-style. Tubes, hardware and disc footers in a Mouser box.

And, now that you mention it, even though all of the hardware is there, the 2 plexi-glass shields are AWOL.

I will have to do something real nice for you in the near future for allowing us this loan and screwing up yourself in the process.
That's because you are a giver, and not a taker!
post #39 of 53
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Originally Posted by markmaxx View Post
I was just wondering Tom, how does your original HE 90 amp sound, compared to these modern day creations?
I no longer own the Hev90 as I sold it a couple of months ago with its partner HE90.
The Hev90amp would hold its own against the newer amps when used with the HE90 & some aspects even better then the newer amps.
Lets face it senn designed it as a system.
Headstage was wider & deeper behind your head with the HEV90 .

There was also alot of unplugging & switching of amps with all the headphones ,leaving electrostatics plugged in letting them stay energized
also effects their sound.
post #40 of 53
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Originally Posted by immtbiker View Post
@Larry. I have your amp and p/s cushioned real nice (italian expression from the Sopranos) together in a Samsonite rolling carry-on (not suitable for shipping) I'd have to rebox them for you, Kove-style. Tubes, hardware and disc footers in a Mouser box.

And, now that you mention it, even though all of the hardware is there, the 2 plexi-glass shields are AWOL.

I will have to do something real nice for you in the near future for allowing us this loan and screwing up yourself in the process.
That's because you are a giver, and not a taker!
Jack said he would prefer to crate up the amp and ship it himself. Thanks for the offer though.
post #41 of 53
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Originally Posted by bozebuttons View Post
I no longer own the Hev90 as I sold it a couple of months ago with its partner HE90.
The Hev90amp would hold its own against the newer amps when used with the HE90 & some aspects even better then the newer amps.
Lets face it senn designed it as a system.
Headstage was wider & deeper behind your head with the HEV90 .

There was also alot of unplugging & switching of amps with all the headphones ,leaving electrostatics plugged in letting them stay energized
also effects their sound.
Thanks!!!

One more question Tom, The Original HE 90 headphones, did they only come as a "System" (Amp/headphone)?

And are the newer HE 90 headphones (the ones that were put together from Surplus parts like, 5 years ago) the same headphone as the old ones?

I guess what I am asking are the HE 90 in some way like the R 10, older models, bass lite, newer models bass heavy? Or do the old and new HE 90 headphones sound the same. Again thanks!!!
post #42 of 53
Thread Starter 
According to Tom, they had 2 entirely different head stages. I'll let him get into the intimate details. He stated that the originals were more open and less congested.
post #43 of 53
Oh my, oh my, oh my! You sure put together a great variation of electrostatic gear.
Pictures say it all...
post #44 of 53
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Originally Posted by markmaxx View Post
Thanks!!!

One more question Tom, The Original HE 90 headphones, did they only come as a "System" (Amp/headphone)?

And are the newer HE 90 headphones (the ones that were put together from Surplus parts like, 5 years ago) the same headphone as the old ones?

I guess what I am asking are the HE 90 in some way like the R 10, older models, bass lite, newer models bass heavy? Or do the old and new HE 90 headphones sound the same. Again thanks!!!
I believe you could buy them seperatly at $7500 each.
The pair I still have is a older pair serial # 226 which I bought from a engineer who used them off his studio console .
I had new drivers installed in Dec 07 from senn USA.
They only have about 10 hours on the new drivers.The new drivers must have been NOS Senn Usa had on hand before the new batch was made in germany .
They pretty much sounded like my other pair that came with the HEV90 serial # 234. I compared them side by side when I got them back from Senn Usa using the HEV90 which has 2 jacks so it was easy to do the comparison.

Now here is the Kicker I have heard 3 pairs of HE90s from the Newer batch
The first time when they where rereleased at Mini meet at my home & compared the two HE90s side by side.
The newer one sounded more closed in then my older one,The older one had a much more expanded & open soundstage.
Everyone at the mini-meet felt the same , we chauked it up to not being broken in yet.
A couple of months ago I listened Danyandelses HEV90/HE90 with a new batch HE90 also with low hours on them at a mini meet at dans home.
I had the same reaction when listening to his ,it also sounded closed in.,
Again I chaulked it up to not geing broken in.JinnP who had spent time with my older pair felt the same at dans house

The third pair I heard was Ray Samuels at the last NY meet,& his is well broken in,it sounded closed in just like the other two from the last batch.
I mentioned it to Ray .JinnP came over to rays table after I called him over to give Rays pair a listen & he agreed my older pair sounded better.
This meet I used my pair with the same A10 that was used at the NY & mine didn't sound as closed in as his or the other two newer pairs.

So I would have to say that the newer older pairs do sound differant,the same as the newer /older R10s.

So my conclusion is there is a differance & I much prefer the older pairs
presentation.
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post #45 of 53
I suppose that someday, if I'm still alive after the kids go to college, I might have a chance to pick up an HE90 to use with my WES; but thankfully I have been pretty happy with the O2 Mk1, Jade and HE60 for now. It would be cheaper to pick up an Omega 1 than an HE90, and I hate to say this here but I'd rather have both an Omega 1 and R10 for the same cost as one HE90.
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