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post #46 of 94
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I received mine yesterday and am blown away. I previously owned all tube amps. This amp has an airiness like that of a tube , however is not colored at all. None of my cans need EQ'd. ( Grado325i, Denon d2000, and Beyer dt880/600OHM. They all sound great. The beyers sound the best on high gain.

I a now a believer of high quality SSamps.

Meirer Rocks
I heart you on this. I have a spectaculat tube set-up for acoustic material (EMP + top-end 50s/60s tubes) but I am missing the bite for my rock material and I am unwilling to pay through the nose for top end NOS tubes on another system. I need an SS amp!
post #47 of 94
@ cooperpwc

Seriously consider this amp for rock. I've been listening to rock all day and it is the most non fatiguing .
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Ken
post #48 of 94
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Originally Posted by thebasso View Post

I received mine yesterday and am blown away. I previously owned all tube amps. This amp has an airiness like that of a tube , however is not colored at all. None of my cans need EQ'd. ( Grado325i, Denon d2000, and Beyer dt880/600OHM. They all sound great. The beyers sound the best on high gain.

I a now a believer of high quality SSamps.

Meirer Rocks

I can't wait to hear the SR325 on the Concerto. Do you think the Concerto makes the SR325 better than when playing from tubes?
 

post #49 of 94

@ Rasmushorn

 

Ive been listening to the 325's regularly on the concerto and definitely say that they are not as bright , with much more bass response. With the tubes I always had to adjust the EQ. Not so with the concerto.

 

This equals to me much less fatigue.surprise

post #50 of 94
Thread Starter 

i will have to wait until end of year before i can afford one

post #51 of 94

Sorry, that is a long time to wait.

post #52 of 94

I have Darkvoice 336i now for my T1. But i am thinking to buy something different and i am very interested in this amp. What are you think guys? Would it be ok with T1? It looks like a good amp. 

post #53 of 94

The T1 sounds excellent with the Concerto, IMHO.

post #54 of 94
Thread Starter 


yeah its a pity.

the only other way i could get it sooner, would be to sell my Solo first.

but then i wont be able to compare the two amps.

i guess i will just have to be patient (for once in my lifesurprise)
 

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Sorry, that is a long time to wait.

post #55 of 94

 

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Originally Posted by thebasso View Post

 

Ive been listening to the 325's regularly on the concerto and definitely say that they are not as bright , with much more bass response. With the tubes I always had to adjust the EQ. Not so with the concerto.


I received my Concerto 4 days ago. I remember listening to my SR325 on a Sugden Headmaster at a meet last year. The Headmaster mastered the 325 in a way I had never heard them before. Total control all the way up through the register and with that edge I love from the 325. After listening to the 325 on the Concerto - right out of the box - it was like the 325's came HOME! I had that same feeling as I remember the Headmaster gave me. They become more RS-1-ish - but without loosing the edgy in-your face sound I love so much. Definitely easier on the ears and less fatigue!

post #56 of 94

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Originally Posted by ElephantTLK View Post

I have Darkvoice 336i now for my T1. But i am thinking to buy something different and i am very interested in this amp. What are you think guys? Would it be ok with T1? It looks like a good amp. 


The T1 is great with the Concerto. I have only heard the T1 play with LISA III, Audio GD Fun and Harmony Design Ear 90 and I think they sound better from the Concerto. 

post #57 of 94

Ok maybe i will buy this amp. I must stop reading this forum... Beyer T1 890€ and now Concerto for 595€. Around 1485€ in 2-3 months.

Ok seriously. Is it worth it? Going from Darkvoice to Concerto? I must end this... My wallet is already empty. 

post #58 of 94
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Originally Posted by ElephantTLK View Post

Ok seriously. Is it worth it? Going from Darkvoice to Concerto? I must end this... My wallet is already empty. 

 

If your wallet is indeed empty, then it's not worth it. At least, in my book food and other stuff you actually need for a living are more important and worth it than a headphone amp...


Edited by Bengt77 - 5/10/10 at 11:03am
post #59 of 94

The Concerto *is* a bit pricey. It's competing neck to neck with the Burson, EAR90, Stello HP100 and GCHA - all of which I've heard and are excellent amps (except for the Stello and Concerto, I've heard the Symphony). Is the Darkvoice OTL? If that's the case, a Concerto might be good for low impedance. 

post #60 of 94

I spent a few hours with the Concerto at Headphonic in Australia yesterday. The nicest amp I've heard so far IMO. Although I do like Mieir amps, and have owned the 3Move. I've also considered the Arietta, the Swing, but have been holding our for something a bit more refined, and to afford it.

 

Others I've spent decent audition time with are the Talisman T31H, The Lehmann Black Cube (I own a clone of this), the Einar Vco1, Burson HA160, The Cayin HA1 Tube, and a number of Chinese entry level amps. Bar the Cayin, I found all fairly sterile and ho hum, and here in Australia, very poor value for money.

 

I listened to well recorded Rock mostly with my RS2, and the Beyer DT250. I also compared it to the Einar, which was the amp that was previously top of my list.

 

The Concerto just sound nicer in comparison. Cleaner, clearer and with more weight and definition in the bottom end. I don't want a completely transparent amp and the ultimate in technical excellence, I want a bit of warmth as well as good clarity, and this amp does it for me. There's not a great deal in it between the two, but I simply found myself listening more with the Concerto - and wanting to hear more. I think with only spending 2-3 hours with both, that's a pretty good result to come away with.

 

Concerto Low and high gain. This makes this amp ideal for those who run both low and high impedance phones.
This is a really nice feature. On low gain, the RS2 starts very, very quiet, but the travel to ear-bleedingly loud takes up the full run off the dial. This gives very fine volume control of easy to drive phones over a long range, and avoids the craptabulousness of some amps *cough* Burson *cough* that go from bugger-all to top-wack with very little dial travel. A bit like my LBC clone; I have very little useable volume control. Even with 400ohm phones, 12 O'clock is as high as it'll get.

The Concerto's high gain will step it up for grunty phones, and it ran the T1 and DT990 with ease. 

 

I also gave the T1 a listen, and this only confirmed for me that I'm not ever going to love high end audio. I like a bit of colour in my sound, and make considered trade offs in quality over presentation. I want good quality, but also fun and involving sound. The T1 delivered excellence and quality, but no fun for me. A very open sound, but too removed, too wide a soundstage, in that I was too many rows back, although the clarity was excellent. Unbelievably fizzy top end though, that even the Concerto couldn't tame, I'd hate to think how peaky this phone would be with something like the Burson, which I found to be the brightest amp I've heard.

 

I think this is far better than the Burson, which I found a terribly bright amp, but those with very laid back phones, of who are wanting brightness, may like it a lot better.  But I hated the stepped volume; too bricky, too much volume change between each step and the channel cut out mid-step was simply unacceptable.

 

I'm putting the Concerto at the top of my list, though I'll listen more, as it's a bit more than I wanted to spend on an amp. But as I'm lucky enough to have listened to many already, so it will be my last for a long time. As I suggested in my sound preferences, upgraditis only leads to hearing more flaws elsewhere in your system, or with your music, and that's a source you can't really do anything about.


Edited by Drubbing - 7/30/10 at 8:42pm
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