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post #271 of 881
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I'm more interested in the quality then the quantity like pianist so how bout it Julie
Hello

I think you'd prefer them in all ways to the PFE (unamped PFE). I had to use a lot of EQ on my Sony to get the PFE's to sound acceptable to me. But the CK10 is fine with just some bass boost. Quality of bass is honestly not much different to the PFE (with no EQ), but I think the CK10 respond better to some boost since it adds a little more depth and warmth. You won't get the C710 bass from them though, no way Jose

But if you like a lot of treble sparkle, and can live with the reduced bass impact, then I think you'd like them a lot.
post #272 of 881
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I haven't done nearly as much extensive testing as you (thanks to the crappy q7 fit!) but I don't especially hear either phone as being more detailed than the other, unless bass resonance counts as detail
Hi soozieq, AFAIR I didn't say that the e-Q7 are more detailed than the CK10. But they are transparent in a way that makes me forget about wearing phones at all. Sadly you're pretty much unable to experience anything like this if the IEMs hurt your ears. BTW have you considered trying average_joe's tip extender mod? IMO it's pretty hard to enjoy a phone when you can't get a good fit.
post #273 of 881
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Hi soozieq, AFAIR I didn't say that the e-Q7 are more detailed than the CK10.
You didn't. Sorry if it came out that way

I was just saying that my own ears couldn't detect any real differences in detail between the two.

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BTW have you considered trying average_joe's tip extender mod?
No. They stick out so far already that with extended tips I'd also have to extend the door openings to get my head through! Or... maybe I could hang the washing over them and run round the garden to get it dry
post #274 of 881
LOL

Although, isnt the tip extension simply supposed to provide you with a deeper insertion, meaning the same amount of outer body will stick out while the IEMs would be inserted more deeply and securely in your ear canals? Wait, this would mean they would just hurt the same way... nevermind
post #275 of 881
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No. They stick out so far already that with extended tips I'd also have to extend the door openings to get my head through! Or... maybe I could hang the washing over them and run round the garden to get it dry
so I take it you do not use the TF10, which is longer overall than my extended tip IE8! I can if you used the TF10 that every time you turn your head your cat ducks
post #276 of 881
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so I take it you do not use the TF10, which is longer overall than my extended tip IE8! I can if you used the TF10 that every time you turn your head your cat ducks
My cat may have received a few black eyes, yes - but from the q7's, not the TF10! I never had a fit problem with the TF10 until I bought them a second time, and then my left ear couldn't maintain a seal for whatever reason. But prior to that, I always found them comfortable because they sat slightly away from my ear canals (due to the design), so I had no pressure in my ears.
post #277 of 881
thanks sooz,excellent comparison as always,i may jump on the x1060 bandwagen soon also,i already ordered the ck10 last sunday and still waiting for them.
post #278 of 881
But your cat's eyes are already black!

The TF10 sticks out of my ears further than my IE8, which was all I was saying.

And have you had a chance to try the CK10 with the Ety Glider tips yet?

Also, what is your most listened to IEM?
post #279 of 881
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But your cat's eyes are already black!
Take another peek. They look green to me. His eyeballs may be black!

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And have you had a chance to try the CK10 with the Ety Glider tips yet?
No. You mean ear hooks? Or the foam tips?

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Also, what is your most listened to IEM?
At the moment, the CK10 (novelty factor's still strong!) - but I still love my C710 too for sheer fun factor.


midoo - I can't wait to hear your CK10 impressions. It's so hard making a decision when you can't know anything for sure until they're in your ears. They do sound good with the X and there's no hiss at all that I can detect. Sounds dead silent, unlike with my C710!
post #280 of 881
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Originally Posted by soozieq View Post
Take another peek. They look green to me. His eyeballs may be black!
Yes, but people usually refer to the part around the eye getting black as a black eye, and that part appears to already be black. Or did your IEMs catch your cat good just before that pic?

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No. You mean ear hooks? Or the foam tips?
Foam tips. They work wonders for the CK10 bass for me.

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At the moment, the CK10 (novelty factor's still strong!) - but I still love my C710 too for sheer fun factor.
Good to know. I gave up on the C710 a while ago, but have a loaner pair here for a little bit and upon a 2nd listen don't regret selling them!
post #281 of 881
Checking in on this thread. I've been listening to a new set set of e-Q7's for 3 days now, thanks to curiosity generated by this thread. I've sorted the inevitable fit issues down to sony hybrids for now. Not an absolutely perfect fit but an adequate seal for now.

So far I'm impressed with the e-Q7 . I am generally a full size can listener and only use IEM's peripherally. I've been settled on TripleFi10's for the last couple years for IEMs after owning Se530's and Ety Er4P's. The Trips have a sound signature that I find appealing for "on the go" IEM use although they are definitely much more colored than any fullsize can I would keep. Trips remind me a lot of the Ultrasone phones I've heard. I have a distaste for Ultrasones when sitting down for critical listening but for portable use, the Trip's similar sound is very appealing.

My impression of the e-Q7 so far is it is very different in presentation from IEM's I'm familiar with. It's very very "polite", which is something that isn't designed into the IEM's I'm familiar with. It doesn't have exaggerations that call attention to it. In general I've found that colorations are much much more tolerated in IEMs than full size cans and appear to be included by design in many cases. So far, the e-Q7 is striking me as very similar to the HD600 signature. I am fond of the HD600 when it's well driven and the e-Q7 has a lot of the positives of the HD600. The e-Q7 is neutral with a touch of warmth, very good extension on both high and lows, has very impressive layering of soundstage. I wouldn't call it the absolute most transparent IEM I've heard but it has top tier clarity.

I'm wondering if eventually I may find the e-Q7 sound not suitable for an IEM keeper though. I would never bring along an HD600 rig to the places I use IEMs and not just because of the weight & unwieldiness. Most of the places I use IEM's -on planes, at the gym and at work when I want isolation/distraction- aren't critical listening environments. I tend to like a lot more "flashiness" in an IEM than I would tolerate in a can. The e-Q7 may be too honest and polite to get enough IEM use by me. I'm definitely enjoying and impressed by them now while "new toy" syndrome is in effect.

I'll check back on this thread and update when I have something to add. I also have a pair of CK10's to pick up in a few days, so it is going to be fun contrasting a couple new toys. Hopefully the CK10 lives up to the discussions, the e-Q7 certainly is. It is very impressive how far/fast the IEM market is moving ahead right now.
post #282 of 881
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^ Hi bada bing, thanks for your excellent description of the Ortofons! You call them "polite" whereas I used the term "relaxed composure" in my review - I believe we're meaning the same thing. I too like that "flashiness" for portable use and above all it's the IE8 that do this for me. But lately I find myself favoring more neutral sounding IEMs even on the go. Perhaps I'm getting old...
post #283 of 881
Jame, do you use which amp is good for e-q7?
post #284 of 881
Here is my first day experience with e-q7. I find the instruments very well presented, clear and laid back, very natural. I hear sound I didn't notice from my CK100. But when it comes to female vocal, which I listen most, I can't handle the sound. The vocal is too focused and not relaxed enough. Compared with the well presented instruments the vocal sounds like it doesn't fit into the music. Too focused to the centre, like the sound is coming from a very tiny point instead of someone actually singing. I don't know if burn-in will improve it but it seems that CK100 is more to my liking when it comes to vocal. The instrument presentation is certainly better, with sound stage and positioning more similar to TF10 Pro. I tried it directly on my N97 and through my new RSA Black Bird, but this "signature" sound (if it was intended by the designers) appears on 2 sets of sources. With or without my SR 71A, it seems that CK100 is still my favourite (and in my own opinion beats E-Q7). However I must admit that the eQ-7 has better bass. The bass of eQ7 is clean and tight, but in terms of deepness it still cannot rival CK100 when both are properly amped. If CK100 is connected directly whithout amp, its bass impact is indeed too weak (but the depth is still there). On the other hand eQ-7 gives reasonable bass even directly from my mobile phone. Kudos to eQ-7 for this one. I listened to a few acts from operas and true, eQ-7 is no match to CK100 in terms of treble.

All in all this is a topic of personal preference. When I say things about the vocal maybe that is because I have got used to the "colored" mid range of CK100 so much that I haven't given a fair review of the eQ-7. Plus the eQ-7 has not been run-in at all. Really hope these things would improve with time, coz I find the mid-range details quite good on eQ-7 - would be great to see improvement on the rest of the specctrum.
post #285 of 881
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Good to know. I gave up on the C710 a while ago, but have a loaner pair here for a little bit and upon a 2nd listen don't regret selling them!
That's exactly how I felt about my second pair of TF10. Didn't regret selling them at all. I remember you were quite enthusiastic about the C710 at one time. Funny how tastes change. I know mine have varied wildly over the years.
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