Originally Posted by iponderous
^ I haven't had the benefit of hearing the CK10 as you have, but I'm surprised to read your comment that it has a larger soundstage than the TF10. That does not accord with any of the other posts that I've read comparing the two phones. Also, I happen to find the TF10's treble to be lively, sparkly but smooth. I don't hear it as sharp per se but it is sharper in presentation compared to the IE8, which renders treble with excellent extension but presents it more "softly" than the TF10 IMO.
Curretly listening to a Fuze -> Film cap dock LOD -> Shadow. I think the TF10 improves quite a bit with this amp, and the CK10, not too sure as I have not had enough time with it yet and have not A/Bed it with the sources.
First, I am sharing what I am hearing, so if that doesn't agree with others, that doesn't change the way I hear it. The presentation of the TF10 is more laid back and seems to have a wider focus than the CK10, but the actual total space is wider with the CK10 than with the TF10. For example people clapping in Hotel CA and Layla are more spaced out with the CK10 and the woman walking at the beginning of West End Girls starts from a little further out with the CK10. TF10 does have a wider and more laid back presentation but the CK10 reaches further for the surrounding sounds.
OK, Seal - Crazy (acoustic) - The TF10 really does sound good and actually with this song I think the treble is smoother, but less accurate on the TF10 then the CK10, as the CK10 treble does seem a little sharper. Pink Floyd - Any Color You Like - the TF10 sounds a little unrefined vs. the CK10 in the treble range, as well as everywhere else. So, the TF10 improves more with the Shadow than the CK10 improves IMO, definitely closer than when using the Fuze HPO. But it depends on the song, as the CK10 treble sounded better to me in some songs, and the TF10 in others with the Shadow.
Overall with the Shadow the TF10 pulls closer to the CK10, but the CK10 still has more micro detail and accuracy, and the TF10 has more bass and a little more treble extension.